Posts by waton

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New GB

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

gage fleegle.

jeffrey winder.

anyone know them?

waton

GB members would decrease and somehow be 'raptured' then disappear to heaven,,to take place in their 'bloodthirsty' slaughter.

BS. you are stuck in the old slave class doctrine ( All partakers are the Faithful &D Slave )

May be these 2 New Boys will tackle the wt dilemma: Jesus said the generation [ wt: anointed] would pass away after the end, the now 10 teachers teach that they, as you said, would die, go to heaven at the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

Contradicting the greatest teacher who ever lived is not a good Idea.

How about it, Jeffrey and Gage ?

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Two New Members of the Governing Body

by Diogenesister in

breaking news from jw.org..... "we are pleased to inform you that two additional brothers have been appointed to serve as members of the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses: brothers gage fleegle and jeffrey winder.

both brothers are anointed christians who have a long history of loyal service to jehovah.

brother fleegle began his full-time service in 1989 and bethel service in 1991. brother fleegle has served as a helper to the service committee of the governing body.

waton

frankly, I like the expressions on those faces. may they keep their christian innocence. power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

They believe they will rule the universe one day. trillions of galaxies. They will have their hands full just with wt's narrowing options ahead. .

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New GB

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

gage fleegle.

jeffrey winder.

anyone know them?

waton

Both came to bethel before 1992, the last year of Friedrich Franz. they are overlappers.

on the light side, with names like that will the flight of fancy of the warwick gang reach new hights?

fleegle, or fluegle ( if the boys on Ellis Island spelled it wrong) little Flight in the Winder, --- up up and away.

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Love - the Identifying Mark of Real Christians?

by LostintheFog1999 in

the jws are fond of quoting john 13:35 that love is the identifying mark of the true religion claiming that only they have this love among themselves.

they love each other.. i was reading the gospel of luke today and thought about the words of jesus luke 6:32-35 niv, “if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you?

even sinners love those who love them.

waton

Even the most highly professing member of any 'loving' faith has limits

pun, because thy sense, that the deity too, has set limits. The "Jealous God" is love?

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How many doubt the GB official teaching about who will survive

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many have doubts about the gb teaching that only baptised jws would survive the big a?

even then they still only say you may make it as with unbaptised kids of jdubs.

i think most people physically in don’t agree with the gb on this and are hoping jehovah would let other good people into the new world even if they are not baptised jws.

waton

I doubt wt has any authority to offer, or guarantee survival. On the record, Their promise of "millions now living will never die " in 1918 is now proven baseless ( a 118 year old nun just died) she was not a potential Armageddon survivor either, , not being baptized into the spirit directed wt organisation.

If you take the bible seriously though:

a) An angel or 2 could in one night or day sort out all the good ones , (see exodus / passover and survival of the firstborn, sheep and chickens too).

b) Angels could protect the chosen ones even in a nuclear holocaust, at > 9000 degree kelvin ( see 3 hebrews +1 in the 7x hotter furnace).-- now,

if only there really was a talking snake for the angel angle.

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How do JWs know that millions who were martyred as Christians before the 20th century did not have the heavenly hope?

by Vanderhoven7 in

as i understand it, jehovah’s witnesses believe less than 145,000 faithful christians existed prior to the twentieth century.

the other sheep christians did not start forming until after 1914. that means jehovah’s witnesses view millions martyred for their faith in christ prior to the 20th century as merely professed christians.. the question is…how do witnesses know that those millions who perished for their faith in christ were not christians at all?.

waton

so many early christian martyrs

ozpo The strange thing about wt believers is, that they only need to partake to pass on to heaven, dying in bed shot up with morphine.

No axing required for the heavenly wt lot.

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How do JWs know that millions who were martyred as Christians before the 20th century did not have the heavenly hope?

by Vanderhoven7 in

as i understand it, jehovah’s witnesses believe less than 145,000 faithful christians existed prior to the twentieth century.

the other sheep christians did not start forming until after 1914. that means jehovah’s witnesses view millions martyred for their faith in christ prior to the 20th century as merely professed christians.. the question is…how do witnesses know that those millions who perished for their faith in christ were not christians at all?.

waton

easy. since the writing of Revelation, or before, Christians' hoped for the coming of the Lord, in their generation.

a). these martyrs, although qualifying for the heavens, following Re,20:3, will not make it the wt way though, because they did not grasp and embrace the overlapping groups generation doctrine. for 2000 years, that's what I call an overlap.

b) they believed, like Peter the first, and were awaiting an new Heavens and Earth.

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PIMO but to scared to talk about doubts

by Indoubtbigtime in

i am pimo but too scared to talk about my doubts with anyone for fear of being shunned.

i know many now have doubts that the vaccines are safe and effective this is as good as doubting the gb.

you can it say anything in doubt about the vaccines because the gb still act like salesmen for big pharmaceuticals .

waton

Play the game of posing in a practise session an objection to be refuted by your jw friend at the door in the h2h work. such as:

how would answer a householder that says

You people do not take the communion sacrifices with Christ, how will you escape damnation? or insert your favoured.

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Love - the Identifying Mark of Real Christians?

by LostintheFog1999 in

the jws are fond of quoting john 13:35 that love is the identifying mark of the true religion claiming that only they have this love among themselves.

they love each other.. i was reading the gospel of luke today and thought about the words of jesus luke 6:32-35 niv, “if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you?

even sinners love those who love them.

waton

you have to love your enemies ( if they dont make that too hard to do ) I guess.

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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K

by Sea Breeze in

what were we thinking?

mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .

which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.

waton

Mat_12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

together with Mat. 25 , the sheep & goats-, - demolishes wt's claim that it is support of the Governing Body that yield everlasting life.