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This is worth pondering

by Truth-and-Justice in

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to my friends on the board,.

i had troubles trying to find my password to log in, and because of that i had to come up with a new password.

i use to be truth and justice, so now its the same with the hyphens between the words.. i had read of certain ones here, getting an invite to the memorial.

waton

there are many comings, standing up, sitting downs of the messiah in scripture and wt descriptions. here is a new one , in today's memorial talk.

the wt memorial will be celebrated until the coming of the lord. this end shall coincide with the demise of the last "anointed" at the outset of the Great Tribulation. so, confirmed:

this year's memorial talk pinpoints Jesus's coming to be at the great tribulation, ( he also sits down to judge the sheep and the goats) and as Michael stands up for his people.

new light: jesus is coming at the great tribulation, 1914 fans, hang your heads.

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Who is partaking of the upcoming memorial in April 15, 2022

by bola in

i am plan to partake of the emblem for the first time.

i have informed my elders of my heavenly call during the time they met with me for my reinstatement last year on june, 2022. i informed my congo secretary also.

who else is intending to partake.

waton

is completely unrelated in my mind. I wouldn't want to 'partake' there as it has a whole different connotation to JWs than to most Christians. nbd:

here is what occurred to me: WT is asking the attendees to make the ultimate sacrifice, that is to forego the right to everlasting life on earth, that is made possible by the ransom, the blood of the new covenant.

the anointed of the overlapping generation accept the emblems, but sacrifice the right to everlasting life in favour of the immortal upward calling, as did jesus the "second Adam" btw.

you reject the emblems, you reject the ransom they symbolize.

wt is asking everyone to make the ultimate sacrifice, in their "worship the anointed elite" ploy.

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Memorial Weirdness

by Ding in

those of us with a watchtower background probably see the memorial as normal.. at least, we're used to it.. we can forget how weird it seems to an outsider.. it's like inviting a group out to dinner, having meals placed on the table, and then explaining to them why no one present should be partaking of any of it because it's really intended for someone else..

waton

it's really intended for someone else. D

It is really an act of worship to that "someone else", because the meal offered is said to the symbol for the sacrifice only for that absent elite group, and

the audience is asked to sacrifice their right to the ransom symbols too. so,

rather than making it a uniting community meal, wt turns it into a dual sacrifice to the true worthies, because

any local partakers are surely not of that lofty class, the overlapping anointed generation.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

waton

As Japan had no such story in it's past tbn

that seems strange with that island nation gifting us with the word Tsunami.

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I'm Back--Blondie

by blondie in

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yes, i am posting again.

i could not for awhile technologically and it is now fixed thanks to simon.

thanks, simon!

waton

Welcome back. I'm back too and look forward to your very intelligent comments. etude

blondie, yeah we look forward to a rendering of paragraph per paragraph wt previews, so we can escape the etude ( french for study) ourselfs. can surely be done without coming into conflict with copy cat catastrophes.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

waton

maybe the cangaroos could have hopped from Turkey's Ararat to Australia's Tasmania but how about koalas, with an eucalyptus lined road all the way?

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

waton

The Genesis flood story doesn't hold water.

not true, it does. water covered the tallest mountains, even Everest, rain fell at a rate of 10 meters an hour.

these were all miracles, science fiction stories of the times they were written in. Even today, fiction and fantasy stories beat science coverage by a wide margin.

do not be a spoil sport. when listening to an elder, or BG member talk, just remember, he believes in the talking snake, water over everest and a 10 story ark towering above it, held together by dowels.

that will give you perspective. fiction is alive and well today.

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Who is partaking of the upcoming memorial in April 15, 2022

by bola in

i am plan to partake of the emblem for the first time.

i have informed my elders of my heavenly call during the time they met with me for my reinstatement last year on june, 2022. i informed my congo secretary also.

who else is intending to partake.

waton

I am just partaking for the sake of it. bola

great idea, sake is great Japanese wine, beats merlot, chianti any time . but why do you want to buy into that whole balled up wt doctrinal package along with it?

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

waton

‘fleshing out’ the fantasy with ‘details’

LHG, I remember in a book study a long time ago, that it would 7 years just to mark the location of all the corpses/bones to be buried later by the digging gangs. That was 7x7 years ago.

there is no joy in wt land even over the ever receding horizon.

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

waton

During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives.

note the generic term: appointed representatives. can not be the GB, they, being anointed, went to heaven at the beginning of the great tribulation. so there will be a new overlap, with the OS wt elite in charge. dont envy them, each armageddon survivor will have to cope with 1000 dead, a big task according to the "special talk"