Even the most highly professing member of any 'loving' faith has limits
pun, because thy sense, that the deity too, has set limits. The "Jealous God" is love?
Posts by waton
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7Love - the Identifying Mark of Real Christians?
by LostintheFog1999 inthe jws are fond of quoting john 13:35 that love is the identifying mark of the true religion claiming that only they have this love among themselves.
they love each other.. i was reading the gospel of luke today and thought about the words of jesus luke 6:32-35 niv, “if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you?
even sinners love those who love them.
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waton
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How many doubt the GB official teaching about who will survive
by Indoubtbigtime ini wonder how many have doubts about the gb teaching that only baptised jws would survive the big a?
even then they still only say you may make it as with unbaptised kids of jdubs.
i think most people physically in don’t agree with the gb on this and are hoping jehovah would let other good people into the new world even if they are not baptised jws.
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waton
I doubt wt has any authority to offer, or guarantee survival. On the record, Their promise of "millions now living will never die " in 1918 is now proven baseless ( a 118 year old nun just died) she was not a potential Armageddon survivor either, , not being baptized into the spirit directed wt organisation.
If you take the bible seriously though:
a) An angel or 2 could in one night or day sort out all the good ones , (see exodus / passover and survival of the firstborn, sheep and chickens too).
b) Angels could protect the chosen ones even in a nuclear holocaust, at > 9000 degree kelvin ( see 3 hebrews +1 in the 7x hotter furnace).-- now,
if only there really was a talking snake for the angel angle.
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How do JWs know that millions who were martyred as Christians before the 20th century did not have the heavenly hope?
by Vanderhoven7 inas i understand it, jehovah’s witnesses believe less than 145,000 faithful christians existed prior to the twentieth century.
the other sheep christians did not start forming until after 1914. that means jehovah’s witnesses view millions martyred for their faith in christ prior to the 20th century as merely professed christians.. the question is…how do witnesses know that those millions who perished for their faith in christ were not christians at all?.
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waton
so many early christian martyrs
ozpo The strange thing about wt believers is, that they only need to partake to pass on to heaven, dying in bed shot up with morphine.
No axing required for the heavenly wt lot.
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How do JWs know that millions who were martyred as Christians before the 20th century did not have the heavenly hope?
by Vanderhoven7 inas i understand it, jehovah’s witnesses believe less than 145,000 faithful christians existed prior to the twentieth century.
the other sheep christians did not start forming until after 1914. that means jehovah’s witnesses view millions martyred for their faith in christ prior to the 20th century as merely professed christians.. the question is…how do witnesses know that those millions who perished for their faith in christ were not christians at all?.
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waton
easy. since the writing of Revelation, or before, Christians' hoped for the coming of the Lord, in their generation.
a). these martyrs, although qualifying for the heavens, following Re,20:3, will not make it the wt way though, because they did not grasp and embrace the overlapping groups generation doctrine. for 2000 years, that's what I call an overlap.
b) they believed, like Peter the first, and were awaiting an new Heavens and Earth.
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PIMO but to scared to talk about doubts
by Indoubtbigtime ini am pimo but too scared to talk about my doubts with anyone for fear of being shunned.
i know many now have doubts that the vaccines are safe and effective this is as good as doubting the gb.
you can it say anything in doubt about the vaccines because the gb still act like salesmen for big pharmaceuticals .
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waton
Play the game of posing in a practise session an objection to be refuted by your jw friend at the door in the h2h work. such as:
how would answer a householder that says
You people do not take the communion sacrifices with Christ, how will you escape damnation? or insert your favoured.
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Love - the Identifying Mark of Real Christians?
by LostintheFog1999 inthe jws are fond of quoting john 13:35 that love is the identifying mark of the true religion claiming that only they have this love among themselves.
they love each other.. i was reading the gospel of luke today and thought about the words of jesus luke 6:32-35 niv, “if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you?
even sinners love those who love them.
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waton
you have to love your enemies ( if they dont make that too hard to do ) I guess.
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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K
by Sea Breeze inwhat were we thinking?
mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .
which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.
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waton
Mat_12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
together with Mat. 25 , the sheep & goats-, - demolishes wt's claim that it is support of the Governing Body that yield everlasting life.
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Front row seats watching the collapse of watchtower
by Indoubtbigtime ini’m a pimo ministerial servant and i won’t fade because i want to keep my front row seats watching what happens next few years.. my predictions are that this current governing body will slowly die off and the current younger helpers will be the next gb.
they will eventually have new light that they were wrong about 1914 and the overlapping generations.. the new light will be something on the lines of the last days are now because of king of north king of south pushing each other etc etc.
they will do their very best to burry old literature and try to change the past trying to make it sound like they were right all along just as they have done for 150 years now.
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waton
-My old congregation in West Sussex -
Of course with sex in the name, sex is the downfall of many youth, wt in a bind to maintain numbers, but also keep the org clean.
It is like the invading army shooting it's rapists.
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NASA: Humans Back to the Moon
by Gerard innasa plans return to moon by 2020
"this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.
i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.
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waton
I.C.E. vehicle
even a gas stove is an internal combustion device and harmful. good thing there are only a few super rich, imagine if the welfare masses would have that spending power.
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NASA: Humans Back to the Moon
by Gerard innasa plans return to moon by 2020
"this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.
i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.
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waton
In the meantime, E. Musk is planning to send 11 people around the moon in one great capsule. The ship has not flown yet, early 2023 planned, and HOW WILL THE high velocity RE-ENTRY WORK?
