For me , right or wrong, it was not a bed room issue. I always associated the verse with ruining the planet, its life through the potential of an all nuclear war. Bible writers could not anticipate modern developments but the ultimate ruin must be the meaning.
Posts by waton
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19Ruining the Earth2.0
by peacefulpete infew years ago i did a thread that i hope has helped some folks.
maybe it is time to 'recycle' it.. did the writer of rev 11:18 (ruin those who ruin the earth) somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.
secondly, how does the context help to interpret it?.
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Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?
by Fisherman inbible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
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waton
It is not just interpretation. applying mathematics and physics analysis to the noah saga as told, sinks the possibility of ever have happened. and
pulls the foundation from under those that hope for a non existing replay with fire.
"faith work without work is dead." the Ark never worked as designed. resign yourself.
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Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?
by Fisherman inbible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
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waton
How would they prove that?
There is no question that ice floats (wt argument that this unusual property of water gives us liquid water, because it kept the oceans from freezing from the bottom up.} water gets less dense as its temperature falls, not rises.
Antartica would have floated 4000 years ago, the rising tide lifts all bodies. even the atmosphere.
we know the deluge date. No anomalies from a global catastrophe in the cores corresponding to that era detected. Imagine 9000 meters of water falling as snow on top of the ice, in 40 days, the mark that would make. The change in radiation levels from losing that water canopy shield.
good thing the titanic Ark did not hit a floating iceberg the size of Antartica.
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Will the Chinese retaliate someday?
by Fisherman inthat’s all we need, to lose china’s economic friendship.
since the chinese explained it was a friendly balloon, shouldn’t we expect the same from china?.
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waton
friendly balloons have flown around the world, over many countries, always requesting and getting permission to overfly the territory. Courtesy should have prompted the middle kingdom to abort, or inform the countries in the paths of this " run away's " long range track of their research vehicle.
Obviously, not all Chinese export comes in containers or on airfreight pallets. This is air fright.
nice try to create a precedent though, for later shooting down anything above the South China Sea ( west philippine area)
such balloons can be steered by the way, by lifting or lowering them into streams of air (jet or slower) that blow in the desired direction. Good guidance to scan Montana, Nebraska, the works.
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Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?
by Fisherman inbible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
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waton
At present, empirical science hasn’t disproven what the Bible says about Noah
is there empirical evidence such as in the Antarctic ice drill cores, 200 times older than "noah", that this ice floated above Mt Everest? did they find that tell tale layer marking the floating debris, pressure line? That the continent was lifted 10 000 meters off its rock bed? To believe that, without empirical evidence, you have to be off the rocker.
Nevertheless, it would be nice if . Re,11:18 , would come true, even if the rest is just -- ridiculous.
Then Jesus and Peter could be forgiven for watery hyperbole.
Come to think of it, it would have been more believable to have the survivors and fauna camp out on the glaciers, sure floaters, than trying to build that impossible barge.
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disgusting money grab attempt
by enoughisenough input under scandals because i think it is horrid...got this from jw facts page while i was looking for something else.
check out how the jws tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims.
: copied and pasted-.
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waton
yeah, I remember being queried about that, but jw youngsters (at the time) were not put in the death camps, unlike the other J people.
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Trust the self-appointed "faithful slave"
by BoogerMan inno wonder they 'cancelled' the wt cd rom.. flip -.
w61 7/15 p. 420 - “...in order to hate what is bad a christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.” .
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waton
wt trying to accommodate more badness in their ranks, , Lovers of the "david" type personalities, good singers, generous contributors, but rotten to the core.
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Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?
by Fisherman inbible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
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waton
remember too, that families take desperate measures to grow again after un-natural disasters, see
the Lot family after the fire and brimstone event of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the neck wrenching,salty death of the matriarch.
Noah's antique bedroom antics included, all new wine fueled.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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waton
Anybody remember the missing Zero Year anecdote about 1914? the fate of that wt doctrine will not be decided over quibbling about the past.
Wt predicted the end of the world for that date. and the rapture of the wt leaders. It is a false prophecy. They did not predict what actually happened.
Their exit from the 1914 generation, false at it is, will be another falsehood. 2 negatives will give an overall plus.
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JW's: When EXACTLY did Jesus become king?
by BoogerMan ini thought it was in 1914. silly me!.
w78 3/1 p. 18 par.
15 - when was god’s son made a king-priest like melchizedek?
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waton
He had a kingdom of his love. Col.1:13, christians are in it since that time.