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  Ruining the Earth2.0

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  few years ago i did a thread that i hope has helped some folks.

  maybe it is time to 'recycle' it.. did the writer of rev 11:18 (ruin those who ruin the earth) somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

  secondly, how does the context help to interpret it?.

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  waton

  As a witness to the effect of the jewish people's holocaust, of the of area bombings, wholesale rapes, ethnic cleansing, the ongoing aim to deliberately destroy whole clans, tribes, nations, MAD ly, agent orange, The narrow greek word definitions notwithstanding, I would think the intent, the ultimate application of Rev 11:18 to apply to total warfare, the deliberate destruction of life and means of life.

  In nature all activities seem to improve the planet. debris from decaying life makes the best soil and oil. We can with ingenuity and willpower do the same with all our activities.
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  While I don`t believe the Bible about GOD or other religions about a GOD ,I do wonder ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. friends

  i do wonder about the universe as we know it .

  it does boggle my mind ,and how such a variety of life does exist on this planet ,from the microscopic to the most advanced life forms.. in such an abundance .?.

  and then looking out there in the universe the multitudes of stars like our sun and planets exist that we have no knowledge of boggles my mind .. so ,maybe i am spiritual in some sense..

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  waton

  put more meaning into our present life. It is a sure bet, even if there is no afterlife. but Reason has it, that if there is an after death reward, why should it not be given to those that did a master job on the first run? A current life concurrent what you perceive to be the purpose of existence of the universe?
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  Ruining the Earth2.0

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  few years ago i did a thread that i hope has helped some folks.

  maybe it is time to 'recycle' it.. did the writer of rev 11:18 (ruin those who ruin the earth) somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

  secondly, how does the context help to interpret it?.

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  waton

  For me , right or wrong, it was not a bed room issue. I always associated the verse with ruining the planet, its life through the potential of an all nuclear war. Bible writers could not anticipate modern developments but the ultimate ruin must be the meaning.
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  Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.

  that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.

  keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.

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  waton

  It is not just interpretation. applying mathematics and physics analysis to the noah saga as told, sinks the possibility of ever have happened. and

  pulls the foundation from under those that hope for a non existing replay with fire.

  "faith work without work is dead." the Ark never worked as designed. resign yourself.
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  Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.

  that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.

  keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.

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  waton

  How would they prove that?

  There is no question that ice floats (wt argument that this unusual property of water gives us liquid water, because it kept the oceans from freezing from the bottom up.} water gets less dense as its temperature falls, not rises.

  Antartica would have floated 4000 years ago, the rising tide lifts all bodies. even the atmosphere.

  we know the deluge date. No anomalies from a global catastrophe in the cores corresponding to that era detected. Imagine 9000 meters of water falling as snow on top of the ice, in 40 days, the mark that would make. The change in radiation levels from losing that water canopy shield.

  good thing the titanic Ark did not hit a floating iceberg the size of Antartica.
  
  
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  Will the Chinese retaliate someday?

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. current

  that’s all we need, to lose china’s economic friendship.

  since the chinese explained it was a friendly balloon, shouldn’t we expect the same from china?.

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  waton

  friendly balloons have flown around the world, over many countries, always requesting and getting permission to overfly the territory. Courtesy should have prompted the middle kingdom to abort, or inform the countries in the paths of this " run away's " long range track of their research vehicle.

  Obviously, not all Chinese export comes in containers or on airfreight pallets. This is air fright.

  nice try to create a precedent though, for later shooting down anything above the South China Sea ( west philippine area)

  such balloons can be steered by the way, by lifting or lowering them into streams of air (jet or slower) that blow in the desired direction. Good guidance to scan Montana, Nebraska, the works.
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  Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.

  that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.

  keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.

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  waton

  At present, empirical science hasn’t disproven what the Bible says about Noah

  is there empirical evidence such as in the Antarctic ice drill cores, 200 times older than "noah", that this ice floated above Mt Everest? did they find that tell tale layer marking the floating debris, pressure line? That the continent was lifted 10 000 meters off its rock bed? To believe that, without empirical evidence, you have to be off the rocker.

  Nevertheless, it would be nice if . Re,11:18 , would come true, even if the rest is just -- ridiculous.

  Then Jesus and Peter could be forgiven for watery hyperbole.

  Come to think of it, it would have been more believable to have the survivors and fauna camp out on the glaciers, sure floaters, than trying to build that impossible barge.
  
  
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  disgusting money grab attempt

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  put under scandals because i think it is horrid...got this from jw facts page while i was looking for something else.

  check out how the jws tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims.

  : copied and pasted-.

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  waton

  yeah, I remember being queried about that, but jw youngsters (at the time) were not put in the death camps, unlike the other J people.
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  Trust the self-appointed "faithful slave"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no wonder they 'cancelled' the wt cd rom.. flip -.

  w61 7/15 p. 420 - “...in order to hate what is bad a christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.” .

  flop -.

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  waton

  wt trying to accommodate more badness in their ranks, , Lovers of the "david" type personalities, good singers, generous contributors, but rotten to the core.
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  Is it mathematically posible for Noah and his sons to have populated the earth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.

  that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.

  keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.

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  waton

  remember too, that families take desperate measures to grow again after un-natural disasters, see

  the Lot family after the fire and brimstone event of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the neck wrenching,salty death of the matriarch.

  Noah's antique bedroom antics included, all new wine fueled.