well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .
we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.
we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .
If you would examine my post closer farkel, you would see that my point was that jw's do not WANT billions of people to die. I am not refuting the fact that the majority of mankind MAY die. I don't WANT anyone to die. But I do believe that many probably will. Don't twist my words.
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Edited by - scumgrief on 4 December 2001 15:20:40
brilliant!.
sorry couldn't find the earlier thread re hp.
but what a film eh?
Lord of the rings will be one of the highest grossing movies of all times! I have forseen it! (At least I hope it will be)
It is one of the greatest stories ever told, and the movie will be outstanding! I have been following the movie's progress for 2 years, and will first in line!
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well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .
we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.
we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .
Outlaw: I'm trying to figure out why you are clinging so much toward how us jw's want 6 billion people to die. Especially since it is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If that is your main defense againt jw's, you aren't going to get very far.
scum
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
No, I was not scared away from posting or affected by something I read. I've been as sick as a dog! I have a flu that is kicking by butt!
serenaj92-no, I am not going to tell me elders that I post here. I don't feel that I need too. But I do not blame them for telling anybody not to post on a board loke this. Their job as I've said before, is to protect the members of the congregation. Obviosly posting or reading from this board would be considered a threat to the elders, and they want to protect the congregation from that threat. I don't blame the elders at all for trying to protect members of the cong. It is their god-given responsiblity.
scum
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
Itsjustme: I believe that my faith is strong enough to prevent me from jeopardizing anything by being here. And no, it has not already.
If I wasn't active and happy I wouldn't say I was, so please don't try to make me question myself.
Batty: I aplologize for not being able to get in to any in-depth discussions yet. What are you interested in my position about? Please just pick one at a time. I'll do my best to defend my beliefs, but we both know that eventually it will just end up in a stalemate.
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jw's claim to trust their god jehovah implicitly.
they fervently preach, teach, publish unending articles about god's protection, even baptising converts who have sworn an oath to jehovah and his "representitive organization" .
they believe unreservedly that god takes a, moment by moment, active role in watching out, taking palpable action on behalf of jw welfare.
I'm not that young dannybear! :)
scum
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
It does seem to me, when I here from some of you, and even from older ones in the area where I live, that there may be an evolution of some degree that has happened. I do know that the society is now instead of "telling" you not to do certain things (r-rated movies, heavy-metal music) they are just leaving it up to the individual to decide for himself. From talking to my friends, it seems to be happening all over.
scum
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
It truly bothers me that this is the case teejay. Of course there are some congregations that are more strict then others, and for certain people that is perfect for them. I guess i wish people could instead of giving it all up, just look for a cong that is better for them personally.
REM-Its cool that you were in a band too! It sucks how you were kicked out though. I hope you are able to reconcile with your friends. Are you still in the org, or have you left?
I guess you could my band "alternative" also. We play modern rock with some alternative thrown in for good measure.
all jw's care about are their own salvation or everlasting life.
yoyomama has verified this in the following post:.
"i love the elders in my congregation and i appreciate their effort to help me through my illness.
Is it so hard for a person to have a balance between his spiritual life and doing things that he enjoys. I try very hard to read the bible daily and do my personal study, but I also make time for fishing (one of my favorite pastimes) and playing music and hiking.
Frenchy-why couldn't you kind of...put the 2 people in your illustration together and split the differnce! :)
scum
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
Thank you all for your replies and civil words. Its seems like people are just scrambling to get me to chime in on certain subjects, and while I do intend to address them over time, teejay kind of hit the nail on the head. I can't tackle all of these issues at once. But as I'm traveling around the board I'll pipe in when I can, and if you want to make a thread about a specific subject I'd be glad join in the discussion. Now lets see...
Ashitaka-no I do not think I would "tell" on someone if they were posting on this board. If they were here complaining about something in the org and I knew them personally, I would probably go to them personally just to talk about it.
I will address some of the issues I mentioned as time goes on. I guess I feel like JW's are being misrepresented here in a lot of ways, and its only fair if they at least have a small voice. And I'll admit, that there are a lot of you that know a lot more than I do about religious history and certain doctrines, but I'll do my best to support my opinions.
Do you want to know what thread I was reading that made me sign up? It probably seems silly to you, but it was a thread about how someone left the org because they cracked down on "social" events, like congregation football games. He said hunting wasn't allowed, movies weren't attended by groups anymore, and that people weren't allowed to hang out. This thread struck me as such BS! And maybe all this happened before I was born, I don't know. But where I live there are at least 6 cong. that get together every other week and play hockey. The other weeks we play football. I go see movies and concerts with my friends all the time! Where I live, hunting is a way of life, even in the congregation. The day after hunting season begins, the Kingdom hall will be at about 50% attendance from all the hunters being gone. I even have a rock band. And its not looked down upon.
I know it can be different from one area to another, but I don't believe that I live in the only area where fellow witnesses get together and have fun.
Whew! Got that out of my system!
scum (Bill Parker-its the name of a song)
