Posts by SEAKEN2001

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JW BLOWS WHISTLE!

by bay64me in

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thought i'd share some of my experiences with you all!.

sister x, was somewhat of an enigma in the congregation, certainly a 'one-off'!

allegedly she suffered from an 'illness' that incapacitated her at strangely convenient times!

I was thinking also that many do legitamtely have reason to use social services available to them. However, having been here awhile I realized that by commenting on the free-loaders the folks here are not attempting to belittle honest people. The discussion was focused on the free-loaders and how one Mr X. was not afraid to blow the whistle. No one here is trying to be "pios" by relating such experiences or poking some fun at those who do this type of thing.

I think there is a saying that says something like "the only successful substitute for brains is silence". Perhaps you could just sit back awhile in silence before opening your mouth in criticism. If you are going to be critical you will want to have thought things over clearly first. Most here do not react too badly to criticsim but don't expect that it will go unchallenged. Just a 'heads up' for you.

Sean

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Animation graphics in the text field

by SEAKEN2001 in

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i know some of you are not going to appreciate this and it probably won't start a movement that will affect a change but it will make me feel better to rant.. i find it very distracting to have moving graphics in the field of text, where we are supposed to be reading.

perhaps many of you are used to listening to the radio while studying for a test, as i have often seen depicted on tv, presumably in humor.

it may be humorous but it is not conducive to actual retention and meaningful meditation.

SEAKEN2001

Hi Dutchie,

Of course, it is not a matter of liking or not liking the actual graphics. There is a place for moving pictures. But if you want to be read, that is if you really want people to read and listen to what you are saying, the moving pictures just get in the way. When we read we make our own pictures, in our own mind. When there is a pin-wheel spinning or some big eyes blinking on an off it distracts the mind from playing it's own movies. It just seems to me that there is a serious glut of readers today and pretty little pictures are more important than the words. When I say stuff like this I sometimes get rebuffed as a snob and high-sounding intellectual. In fact, I do love pictures, and moving pictures. But they are out of place on the printed page when the words should take the leading role. In some instances, such as with playful banter and surface level curiosities it can be just fine sorting through the clutter and the pics can even serve to add to this type of exchange. But when the words are meant to be assimalated and comprehended as food for thought these types of moving images are out place and only a distraction.

All of us seem to learn to tune certain things out. Some people seem to have no problem reading a novel and watching TV at the same time, or studying for an exam and listening to music. But I rarely find it condusive to deep thinking to have too many distractions. Especially when I am writing do I find it necessary to find a quiet place with few distractions. I know I am not the only one who feels this way and I know that there are many others who really don't care about what I call a distraction and have no problem with what I find irritating. I really just wanted to rant a bit and maybe get some sympathy. [g]

I now live in a world where the written word is old-fashioned and plain. I am completely happy with all text web-sites when my purpose is reading. But by far the majority of people making web-sites think that plain text is bad and would not be caught dead putting their name on it. At least there are still a few publishers who still use old-fashioned plain text, just good old words, to paint their pictures. I fear that someday no outlets will accept plain-text books since they won't be considered marketable. I hope that day never comes.

Sean, ranting a little more.

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Animation graphics in the text field

by SEAKEN2001 in

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friends

i know some of you are not going to appreciate this and it probably won't start a movement that will affect a change but it will make me feel better to rant.. i find it very distracting to have moving graphics in the field of text, where we are supposed to be reading.

perhaps many of you are used to listening to the radio while studying for a test, as i have often seen depicted on tv, presumably in humor.

it may be humorous but it is not conducive to actual retention and meaningful meditation.

SEAKEN2001

I know some of you are not going to appreciate this and it probably won't start a movement that will affect a change but it will make me feel better to rant.

I find it very distracting to have moving graphics in the field of text, where we are supposed to be reading. Perhaps many of you are used to listening to the radio while studying for a test, as I have often seen depicted on TV, presumably in humor. It may be humorous but it is not conducive to actual retention and meaningful meditation. No, I'm not talking about crossing your legs and humming with your fingers in lotus position. But I am of the school of thought that says reading should be comprehended and considered. All these moving pictures just distracts from your words. Even if you have typed some very well thought out words I won't read them because I will scroll down to get that damn animation off the screen.

Like I said, this is just a rant and I don't really expect any of you folks who delight in this type of nonsense to change your habits just so I can read the forum without distraction. I'm sure I just sound like some old fuddy-duddy who lacks the talents many of you display in juggling non-sensical animated cartoons and meaningful text. Maybe I should go to college to learn how to perfect this talent you all learned while studying and listening to heavy-metal music at the same time.

There should be some way of turning this animation off while reading. In the meantime, I will continue to miss all that fine writing you folks contribute here as long as you insist on littering the screen with rediculous animations. [Note: if the animations are in the profile area I can put up with it. But in the field of the forum text I scroll past it].

Ok, end of rant, for now.

Sean

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Jws @ my door.unbelievable.....

by target in

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two jws, man and wife, were just at my door.

she started presenting the watchtower and i just saw red!

i can't believe the anger that welled up in me.

SEAKEN2001

Syn,

what is a "meme"? It is not in my dictionary. What are you referrng to?

Sean

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Family Values

by Quincy in

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if a family member is df....or whatever....if jw are supposed to be christian....why do the cut you off....god is a loving god who loves all his children...and why is it that you have to go through an "exit" interview...like its a job or something?

there are many unanswered question i have...but this is just one of them to start...it seems to me that its hypocritical...

SEAKEN2001

Beck_Melbourne,

very well said. I agree 100%!

Very zenlike.

Sean

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X-JWs Who are now bible Christians

by clash_city_rockers in

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hi folks,.

i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.

i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.

SEAKEN2001

Point Blank, Gumby, Andi, Little Toe,

thank you for your balanced comments.

Clash,

thank you for making it very clear how wide the gap is between reason and wishful thinking.

Sean

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Preparation for Dateline & online interest

by Kismet in

dateline is just 24 hours (give or take) away.

i really do expect to see a great deal of online activity as people search for more information.

jwd is likely going to be one of the most visited due to the large amount of information posted here on the subject, much by silentlambs themselves.. i also expect to see people visiting randy's excellent site as well as watchtower observer for copies of documentation,news articles, etc.

SEAKEN2001

I agree Farkel.

BTW, Stone Philips just said tomorrow's Dateline is at 8:00 EST, 7:00 CST. So, I'll set my VCR for 8:00 here.

Hi Mrs. Rocky, I'll call my Dad right now. I'll e-mail his number to you. He only uses a cell phone now. See ya.

Sean

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Family Values

by Quincy in

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friends

if a family member is df....or whatever....if jw are supposed to be christian....why do the cut you off....god is a loving god who loves all his children...and why is it that you have to go through an "exit" interview...like its a job or something?

there are many unanswered question i have...but this is just one of them to start...it seems to me that its hypocritical...

SEAKEN2001

Quincy,

are you trying to make sense of why the JW's do what they do? Oh, my friend, that is a very difficult, if not impossible, task. Why is this so important to you? "Studying"? Have a ministry?

The basic answer is that they ARE a corporation and it IS like a job. Only they don't pay the workers. It's called a cult.

Sean

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Latest Watchtowers....

by VioletAnai in

my latest watchtowers deal with:.

are you afraid of death.

the end of man's problems....soon (something to that effect).

SEAKEN2001

Damn! Redhorsewoman beat me to it!

HeHe! Fark

Sean

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Why a JW family member is traumatic to non JW?

by solosecret in

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i was raised in a very religiously strict christian home, and have been presbyterian or baptist my whole life.

i have heard nothing but bad things about the jw's.

just recently i have gotten very interested in in learning more about jw, and possibly becoming one.

SEAKEN2001

Hi Elizabeth,

I see you have already done what I suggested in the other thread. Good. May I ask, why do you want to become a JW? Are you dissatisfied with your current church? Are you in search of something for your life?

The JW's look like a squeeky clean group of good folk. To be sure, many JW's are nice folks. But it still remains that the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is a cult organization. They have total control of what you are allowed to think and say. If you do not agree with anything they say is God's direction you have only two choices. Either keep your mouth shut and go along or be expelled as an apostate. They don't tell you this when you are "studying". If I were you I would ask your friend these questions:

If I join the JW's now, with a little bit of "knowledge", but later learn more things and decide I want to leave, can I just leave? Can I change my mind? If I later decide to leave what will happen to my friendships and family relationships I have had while a Witness? If I ever have a disagreement with an "elder" can I use the legal system in my country to resolve the issue without santions from the Watchtower? Will the Watchtower organization protect me from any power hungry "elders" who have turned aside from teachings of christianity but have not yet been "found out"? Can you tell me that I will never be slandered by the "elders" as a wicked person if I ever have a disagreement with the body of "elders"? How responsive has Jehovah been to correct any errors the "elders" make and renew the reputations and livelyhood of innocent victims of circumstance?

All these questions and many more like them are way more important than whether you think the JW's serve the same god or not. When you join them they take over complete control of your life. You can't ever change your mind or have a disagreement. Try to understand that the JW's are a complex mix of nice people with a very dangerous outlook on life. Most all Witnesses are ignorant of their own organization's history. And they will turn on you if you so much as suggest that the leaders of the orgnization are no directed by God. They are simple minded folks who believe their leaders are in direct contact with God yet not one of them can tell you how.

They will die for their beliefs but they cannot explain them without help from the Watchtower leaders. Their beleifs are not their own. They are spoon fed at the table of the Faithful & Discreet Slave and will reject every other thought if it doesn't come through this channel. In short, they are a cult.

Do your research, try to defend them. That is the best way to learn the truth about them. It's all there in their own literature and acts. If you really want to know what they are up to try your best to take their side and defend them using their own literature. Do it honestly and objectively. You will then know what we know and why you keep hearing bad things about them.

All the best,

Sean