Posts by searcher

It seems like a chess game where the nations of the world are more interested in gaining some sort of political advantage rather than helping be a mediator of peace and healing in such a war torn area as a top priority.

So what else is new?

Name one country that has ever done anything that has been for any other reason than political advantage.

Sad but true that nations only, at base, consider themselves, and polititians and political parties within those countries only consider themselves.

Also, IMO, it's time that people evolved past the need for religious props and justifications and got down to real living.

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What is the stated mission of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

by LDH in

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all this time you thought it was to proclaim jehovah's grand kingdom!

ain't you silly!.

(by the way, this information is maintained and updated by our friend jr brown-nose!).

searcher

What is The New York Community Trust?

We are the country's largest community foundation, with assets of $1.9 billion and almost 1,800 individual charitable funds. We have been helping charitable individuals, businesses, and private foundations with their philanthropy since 1924. We make philanthropy convenient, professional, and lasting.

So who got money from them recently?
A Better Chance ($500), ACORN ($10,000), American Friends Service Committee ($25,000), American Jewish Committee ($5,000), American Kidney Fund ($500), American Red Cross in Greater New York ($130,450), American Red Cross, Mineola ($500), American Red Cross, White Plains ($50,000), American Red Cross, National Headquarters ($180,865), American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals ($2,470), AmeriCares ($2,750), America's Second Harvest ($31,000), Arcandiana Arts Council ($1,000), Baton Rouge Area Foundation ($71,925), Catholic Relief Services ($2,500), Community Foundation of Acadiana ($25,000), Community Foundation of Greater Birmingham ($25,000), Community Foundation of Greater Jackson ($25,800), Community Foundation of South Alabama ($25,000), Direct Relief International ($500), Enterprise Corporation of the Delta ($102,000), Federation of Southern Cooperatives and Land Assistance Fund ($500), Foundation for the Mid South ($50,000), Greater New Orleans Foundation ($50,750), Gulf Coast Community Foundation ($28,000), Habitat for Humanity ($10,670), Hands On Worldwide ($25,000), Heifer Project International ($2,500), HHC Foundation of New York City ($500), Humane Society of the United States ($2,100), International Rescue Committee ($152,000), Jewish Center of the Hamptons ($500), Louisiana Disaster Recovery Foundation ($5,000), Ms. Foundation for Women ($5,000), NAAP ($100), New Orleans Bar Foundation ($87,000), North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System Foundation ($2,500), NYRAG ($10,000), Petsmart Charities ($1,520), Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors ($10,000), Salvation Army, Conneticut ($3,750), Salvation Army of Greater New York ($9,750), Salvation Army, Massachusetts ($100), Salvation Army of Sarasota ($1,500), Sisters of Charity of Sain Elizabeth ($20,000), Southeastern Louisiana Legal Services Corporation ($50,000), Southern Mutual Help Association ($104,400), Tipitinas Foundation ($600), Tulane Educational Fund ($2,500), Twenty-First Century Foundation ($2,000), UJA-Federation of New York ($4,660), Union for Reform Judaism ($10,000), United Jewish Communites ($250), United Methodist Church ($5,000), United Negro College Fund ($500), Unitarian Universalist Association ($500), United Way of America ($5,000), United Ways of the Texas Gulf Coast ($5,000), Vanderbilt University ($25,000), Vanguard Public Foundation ($500), Vermont Public Radio ($150), Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York ($50,000), William J. Clinton Presidential Foundation ($39,000)

WOW! You have to hand it to the WTBTS, they are good.

They get the R&F to donate to Katrina relief, making it to the WWW, then they get a grant, spend the grant on relief (one assumes) and yet convince the R&F that it was THEIR donations which were spent.

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BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS Twisting a life-affirming law into death

by Terry in

turning a life affirming rule into a death-dealing policy is an amazing accomplishment.

we can thank the watchtower society for a mindset which makes this possible.. i've gone into great detail before about the watchtower blood policy itself.

it is a blatant and deliberate publicity stunt which takes the rather simple prohibitions of the laws of noah for gentiles on murder .

searcher

Superhooper said,

oh and witnesses are not a cult. thats your opinion. organised religion.- thats a fact

Judge Rutherford said,

Beware of organised religion, it is a snare and a racket

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Live With Jehovah's Day in Mind

by searcher in

timely message?.

chapter one.

page 5 ........that is why many are grateful for sound advice on how to reach thyeir goals and make their life more enjoyable and successful.. page 6.........recall this truth "all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the comfort from the scriptures we might have hope".. page 8.........the book of ruth........that short book stresses the attatchment we should have to true worship, illustrates how highly god values women....... page 8.........another aspect to consider involves the terms "prophets" and "prophetic".

searcher

Narkissos Wrote

Is that a new book?

Its the book that was released at the convention, studying the 'Minor' prophets.

It seems like they have found another version of 'do more', the book is rife with such 'upbuilding' as can be seen in the above quotes.

undercover wrote

hmmm...methinks they are trying to re-define the meaning of "prophet". ;

They certainly seem to be, 'prophet' was also a mouthpiece used by God to pass on his will, (strange thing, God is used more than Jehovah, at least in the first two chapters, has meaning or just for the 'newbies' ?).

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Live With Jehovah's Day in Mind

by searcher in

timely message?.

chapter one.

page 5 ........that is why many are grateful for sound advice on how to reach thyeir goals and make their life more enjoyable and successful.. page 6.........recall this truth "all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the comfort from the scriptures we might have hope".. page 8.........the book of ruth........that short book stresses the attatchment we should have to true worship, illustrates how highly god values women....... page 8.........another aspect to consider involves the terms "prophets" and "prophetic".

searcher

Timely message?

Chapter One

Page 5 ........That is why many are grateful for sound advice on how to reach thyeir goals and make their life more enjoyable and successful.

Page 6.........Recall this truth "All the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the comfort from the scriptures we might have hope".

Page 8.........The book of Ruth........That short book stresses the attatchment we should have to true worship, illustrates how highly God values women......

Page 8.........Another aspect to consider involves the terms "prophets" and "prophetic". These words may bring to mind the fortelling of the future.Many people think of prophets just as one who predicts-

Page 9.........We need to bear in mind, though, that the role of Jehovah's prophets was not exclusively that of uttering divine predictions.God often used prophets as spokesmen to tell others what his will was.

Page 9.........Aaron served as prophet for Moses.Aaron carried out the rold of prophet by being a spokesman, or "mouth" for Moses.

Page 9/10....Think too of the prophets Samuel and Nathan......Jehovah used both of them to declare what would happen in the future, but healso had them serve as prophets in other ways.

Page 10.......These inspired books offer us valuable guidance that can help us "to live with soundness of mind and righteousness and devotion amid this present system of things".

Page 12.......Ask yourself: 'In these 1`2 books, what useful advice or divine counsel does Jehovah provide for me?........................What do they tell me about Christian living, morality, family life, and attitudes in these critical days, since "the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near"?'

Chapter 2

Page 14.......scores of men called prophets in the Scriptures.............experienced elation in seeing their message change hearts and minds, leading people back to God.........Others experienced bitter disappointment when they saw wayward ones violate Jehovah's standards and work against his will.some.......felt the frustrating effacts of complacency and self indulgence on the part of professed worshipers of Jehovah around them.

Page 14/15...their messages should be remembered, being recorded in the "prophetic scriptures" for the benifit of us "upon whom the ends of the systems of things have arrived".

Page 15.......You are aware though, that God had constantly alerted Israel and Judah by means of faithful prophets.

Page 16.......,you will discern important lessons that you can apply in your ministry during our perilous times.

Page 16........Have you ever experienced a crisis of confidence, perhaps feeling that your faith is waning?

Page 17........Were you ever frustrated when people maligned your Bible-based message as alarmist?

Page 17........On a positive note,he [Joel] indicated that the faithful 'would prove to be the escaped ones'.

Page 18........You can feel for Amos if you are sometimes struck by the gravity of the message we are to proclaim, usually to individuals who do not respond.

Page 18........Does it not encourage you to know that Jehovah can enable an average man to do such significant work?

Page 18........Have you ever asked yourself, 'what sacrifices would I be willing to make to do Jehovah's work?

Page 21........Do you not agree that todays critical times challenge you in developing boldness and complete reliance on Jehovah?

Page 22........If you manefest these qualities you will be like Micah.

Page 22........How comforting is is to see that some do respond positively to our message of salvation.

Page 23........If you have had to break with family traditions to do Jehovah's will, you can sympathise with Zephaniah.

Page 24........You may well feel that you are of no account, not one who is in the limelight.Christians.......great priviledge......."fellow workers" of God yet personally most do not enjoy great prominence.

Page 24........His [Nahum's] message proved true, as will the message we bear today.

Page 24........Over the centuries, some Bible readers have had unfulfilled expectations regarding the day of Jehovah. Others might be frustrated by the seeming delay of God's judgement.How do you feel?

Page 25........Those words [Habakkuk's] must be really important to us as the apostle Paul quoted them in three books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.

Page 25........Jehovah offers us the assurance: "The vision is yet for the appointed time....it will not be late.

Page 26........,but how encouraging it is to realise that God can use seemingly insignificant ones as his messengers.

Page 26.........You may at times be disheartened by a lack of zeal evident in some who have served God.

Page 27.........,he [Zechariah] faced the challenge of stirring up his fellow worshippers to keep at the work until the temple was completed.

Page 27.........,he [Zechariah] strove to stimulate strong faith and corresponding action.

Page 27..........We to can draw strength that "Jehovah of armies" will not forget people who seek his favor.

Page 27/28.....The zeal and enthusiasm thet the prophets Zechariah and Haggai had stimulated some decades ago had faded.The Jews spiritual state was at a very low ebb.

Page 28..........You can see that the men who wrote the last 12 books of the Hebrew Scriptures had fath and conviction...........Their example and message can teach us valuable lessons as we eagerly look forward to "Jehovah's day".......Consider how these prophetic messages can effect your eternal future.

And that is just the first two chapters, at this point I threw up, maybe I will do some more later, maybe someone else will.

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Any of you oldies out there remember me??????

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

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i know it's been ages, busy living i guess.

but i thought i'ld drop in and say hello.. i sometimes read posts and ask misspeaches what's going on.

as i'm having the day off work today i decided to take the time to post a big 'hello ' to all my old friends on the forum, and also to the new members here.. nothing much has changed for me and my family.

searcher

Hi Bliss and other oldies

Fondly remembered.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-25-06 WT Study (Survival)

by blondie in

who do the sons and daughter-in-laws represent (did they have children before the flood)?.

what does the ark represent?.

(2 peter 2:5) the true god gave righteous noah explicit instructions on how to build an ark for the preservation of life through a global flood.

searcher

Great review Blondie, and right on the money.

The public talk was of the same theme, Noah, the ark, not only have to be IN the ark to survive have to show faith and be doing.

Figures show that people are still hearing the message and coming in so keep at it, only one part of prophecy still to happen (tribulation), hands up everyone who wants to survive (every hand except one ).

Much about Daniel and the idol with the feet of clay, so near now, yadda yadda yadda.

And the message is..............hold your breath now,

Do more!

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Shocking Announcement: Society feels Armaggedon coming this year?

by truthseeker in

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a rumor alert indeed, but it could be related to the distribution of kingdom news no.37, "false religions end is near.".

the following is posted from e-watchman's forum.. make of it what you will, but in light of all the rhetoric about "deliverance at hand" and "independent thinking", nothing would surprise me anymore.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1502&st=0 we posted about an announcement it was only local to our cong.

however we have found out that there is going to be an announcement sometime in september and it is supposed to be shocking.

searcher

Could it be a kind of reverse scam?

Goes like this..

Rumour important announcement, fire up the dubs.

Announce the end.

End doesnt come on date.

Many dubs (particularly in the west) leave.

Downsize the congs, sell off the empty KH's.

Gradually move operations over to 3rd world countries where there IS growth and not so much court room activity.

A bit far fetched I know, but they are capable of anything.

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Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 -- not on any CD Library that I possess.

by Schizm in

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truthseeker posted the following quote, here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/114458/2002789/post.ashx#2002789.

i attempted to verify the quote by referring to the society's library, which i possess.

in fact i posess the 1997, 2004, and 2005 libraries.

searcher

Schizm Wrote
Those who pen the articles for the Society's publications are only human too.

We are assured that they are lead by the holy spirit, and as such, their interpretation cannot be wrong, and that belief in the interpretation is mandatory. -- searcher.

You are taking things to the extreme, and unjustifiably so. If their interpretation had been *inspired* then THAT is when it "cannot be wrong". Of course the writers of the Watchtower do no claim inspiration, and you know that. However, they DO seek to have God's mind on the matter ( = pursuing the holy spirit). Merely seeking to have God's mind on a matter doesn't guarantee flawlessness.
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Extreme? I only know what the society has written themselves, in their own publications, that they are Gods Organisation, that they are inspired by the holy spirit, that they expect followers to abide by that.

Are you telling me they are not inspired by the holy spirit?

They are either inspired, or they are not, they can't have it both ways, that would be dishonest.