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  Of all the billions of planets - why did the demons get sent to Earth?

  by truthseeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some say it is fitting that the demons were hurled down to earth because the original serpent began his rebellion against god in the garden of eden.

  yet, what happened is tantamount to unlocking every prison on earth and letting murderers, rapists and evildoers go free to terrorize humanity.

  the angels were aware of the effects of the expulsion of the demons and their leader - "be glad you heavens and you who reside in them.

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  Of all the billions of planets - why did the demons get sent to Earth?

  Because the earth is the only planet that contains a species arrogant enough to believe that the whole universe was created to just to give it somewhere to live?
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  a matter of debate/interpretation

  So God could've very well meant

  Obviously

  It could be understood

  It probably

  it probably had no "magic powers"

  You don't sound too sure.
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  Anti Witnessing, do you do it?

  by bikerchic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i was at a laundry mat and saw several jw mags and tracts.

  i threw them all away in the trash can!.

  i also tell everyone i have an opportunity about being in a cult, the jw's and have had many interesting conversations.

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  I certainly do.

  In the past I have prepared 'tracts' shown them to friends and aquaintences who showed an interest in the WTBTS.

  Shown them the things they will not be told until they are deaper in, I know for a fact that two of the people I have spoken to have cancelled their 'Bible Studies' and several have dropped their interest in the society.

  I find this method easier than trying to 'witness the witnesses out'.
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  The bible mentions nothing about animals not having choice, only man was forbidden to eat from the tree of knowledge of choice.

  Animals DO have a choice, for example, two animals meeting for the first time have the choice of the three F's, Fight, Flee or F.......well, you can guess that one

  One of them, Fight is 'evil', so animals, in a sense, have the knowledge of good and evil.

  Funny how animals rate higher than man.
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  there are two scenerios that I think are possible:

  1) That they had never tried the tree of life. (They ate from the tree of knowledge first, doh!)

  2) That they ate regularily from the tree of life, and it helped sustain their life. so eating from it on a continuous basis is what helped them live forever or indefinitely. Thereby god prevented them from taking of it, either for the first time, or ever again.

  That is how I see it.

  If scenario 1, then man was not intended to live forever, if 2, then man was held prisoner in the garden, needing to eat from the tree on a regular basis to sustain life, so it seems to me that the knowledge of choice was the 'payoff' for sustaining life.

  It seems strange that any god would create a being that has no knowledge of choice, might as well build a robot.
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  It is interesting that. although verse 2:16 says From any tree of the garden you may eat freely, verse 3:22 makes it clear that man had not already done so and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat.

  Live forever in return for not having the knowledge of choice?

  live to time indefinite is from the NWT, RSV says live forever, interesting that the WT changed that.
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  So man was intended to live forever, as long as he kept eating the fruit, but not intended to have the knowledge of the choice between good and evil?
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  Notice that it says "Now man has become like one of us . . ."

  Certainly it does..............in now having the knowledge of good and evil.

  But man was forbidden to take[fruit] from the tree of life before being ejected.

  If man had been intended to live forever, he would not have been forbidden the fruit.
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  Man not supposed to live forever.

  by searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 3:22 and jehovah god went on to say: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite, nwt

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  Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite,—” NWT
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  JW Talent Show North Little Rock, AR circa early 90's

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here are three clips from a jw talent show that took place in north little rock arkansas in the early 90's.

  since jw's normally do not pursue entertainment careers, those who have talent sometimes feel a need to share their skills with fellow believers.

  the brother doing the eagles classic paid the auditorium rent and organized the show.

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  But, but...................the men are not wearing ties and the women are wriggling their bottoms