Irishdub

Joined

• started 0 topics
• posted 61 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Irishdub

• 
  34

  Proof they are not a cult??

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.

  jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.

  some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  Response to OP :

  proof they are a judgmental hate group ..

  Note to the speaker:

  Build appreciation for earthly part of Jehovah’s organization and the important role it plays in our relationship with him. Show that accepting the organization is essential, as Jehovah’s purpose is to “gather all things togeth- er again in the Christ.” (Eph 1:10) Make it clear that only those who come into and remain in unity with Jehovah and his organization will get life

  DANGEROUS TO TAKE HUMAN VIEWPOINT OF EARTHLY PART OF JEHOVAH’S ORGANIZATION

  (6 min.)
  Some become critical, saying that Jehovah does not have an organization

  May say that loving one’s fellowman is what really counts or that having a personal relationship with God is the really important thing or even that personally reading the Bible is sufficient (rs 326-8)

  Those who adopt such viewpoints are * like Satan*
  They break away from the Father, Jehovah *By rejecting Jehovah’s organization*, such ones are rejecting the protection of the Fine Shepherd, who has but “one flock” (Joh 10:16) (1Ti 1:19, 20; 2Ti 2:16-19)

  Such persons emphasize personal salvation, not the vindication of Jehovah (w88 1/15 17-18; hp 191)

  
  

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fYNzAbUpqFdWRPMFdIX294M1E/view?pref=2&pli=1

  
  

  USA Will also be investigating hate groups ...
• 
  2

  Special Pleading + Blind Obedience = Compromised morality and even extremism.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had an interesting discussion over the weekend with a coupe of witness on the carts.

  i asked them if they put much thought into the rights/wrongs/consequences of writing letters to russia before doing so or did they just do it without thought because the gb asked them to.

  one said yes, they would always do what the gb said to do because they completely trusted that the gb would never ask then to do something that is wrong.

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  Irishdub

  WTS GLOBAL agenda ...writing letters to Russia !

  WTS limited agenda ...A copy of the new ARC recommendations on *Child Protection* SOP, ONLY ON REQUEST and ONLY in Australia !

  
  

  which one is self serving ?

  
  

  SAD
  
  
• 
  56

  "There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

  “there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

  many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  OP HONESTLY and OBJECTIVELY look at every argument for or against a Creator.

  
  

  this statement shows you have *consciousness* and *cognitive ability* superior to animals of like body and functions. This (cognitive ability) is an *image of a creative mind* in function. Any ideas how thoughts are formed ?

  
  

  cheers ;)
• 
  63

  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. social
  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  WATON : perhaps off-topic contributions

  au contraire my friend....the bread and wine symbolize the *substance* of that envisaged (motivational/empowering) LIFE

  cheers ;)
• 
  26

  My Anointed Grandma’s Wavering Faith?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some quick background information: my dad (her firstborn son) died unexpectedly this past october.

  his death has really hit our family hard.

  personally, i have not totally come to terms with this.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  OP

  condolences on the loss of your father...

  
  
• 
  26

  My Anointed Grandma’s Wavering Faith?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some quick background information: my dad (her firstborn son) died unexpectedly this past october.

  his death has really hit our family hard.

  personally, i have not totally come to terms with this.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  OP

  A funny storey I hear, was a former catholic man (and his family) converted to Watchtowerism, but in later years he became senile, put up pictures of the Pope in his house and banned all the *evil JWs* coming around to visit .. ...lmao !
• 
  63

  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. social
  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  Waton says At the last supper, the Anointed abstained, the Earthly Class partook. my, how times have changed.

  Another group with class discrimination... ? lol

  Genesis does not show God's eternal plan for man and creation. God's eternal plan (before creation) for man's potential is seen in Ephesians 1. psalm 8:5, Hebrews 2:5-18

  Man was made to rule His OWN NATURE and his environment, (as a image of God) NOT other people ! romans 8:20-21

  the devil is in the details

  cheers :0

  
  
• 
  6

  Why is the memorial Sometimes not on the Night of the passover?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do the jaydubs follow a different calendar?.

  sometimes it is not in line with the jewish celebration and it should be no?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  OP

  Chronology was never the Watchtower's forte

  :)
• 
  63

  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. social
  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  WATON says "At the last supper, all the people with an earthly hope"

  what scriptural proof do you have for this opinion ?
• 
  63

  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. social
  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Irishdub

  At one time, in the RCC. only the priests could partake of BOTH bread and wine.

  The Watchtower evolved the same way, from a brotherhood to a ecclesiastical power.

  1 Cor 10 shows no exclusiveness for baptized believers-

  2 and were *ALL* baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea

  3 and did *ALL* eat the same spiritual food

  4 and did *ALL* drink the same spiritual drink

  for they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them- and the rock was Christ

  
  

  let's review.. the WTS is a cult based on failed end time eschatology