to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .
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The items the WTS published and produced had a commercial agenda attached to them toward the cultivation of money, it wasn't just about important vital information.
Some people will deny that, I particularly dont
In hindsight that information was false apostate teachings which according to bible scripture should never been taught.
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Another notable error on part of the WTS men is their growing cultivation of power and control over people which grew steadily over the decades, one might say these men got delusionaly drunk on power,
God's chosen ones directed by god's holy spirit as they say, a foundation to their own inherent corruption.
Whenever men come out and proclaim that, a human folly is usually in the works.
ie... thousands died from refusing a blood transfusion, possibility of millions of families broken apart.
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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I guess the WT publications trumps/carries more weight than the bible?
Yes good point , to the WTS GB men righteousness is obtained through them, they are mankind's mediator not Jesus so the dismissing of some of Jesus's teachings are placed aside.
John 14 : .......
. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
even if you disapprove of much about the wt and/or its religion, what aspects do you view most favorably about the wt and/or its religion?
for me one of the things i view most favorably about the wt and its religion is its extremely strong insistence that jws never intentionally kill another human being.
i especially appreciate that regarding those who have been born, but i think some abortions of human embryos might be justifiable.
Agree with you there DJW but alcohol drinking was another problem of sorts to be noted.
to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .
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The American Constitution availed men to openly and freely propagate their religious expressions without government regulatory control.
The men of the IBSA and the following JWS organization knew and accepted that available openness.
The men of the WTS made doctrinal proclamations through the literature they sold then were eventually forced to ask for a donation due to tax laws in the US.
I'm in the belief that these men partially believed the doctrines made by past WTS leaders such as the pivotal year of 1914 and partially in acceptance that they were advantageous for their own literature proliferation.
Sometimes to get at the truth you have to use a sharp knife, uncomfortable as it may be.
even if you disapprove of much about the wt and/or its religion, what aspects do you view most favorably about the wt and/or its religion?
for me one of the things i view most favorably about the wt and its religion is its extremely strong insistence that jws never intentionally kill another human being.
i especially appreciate that regarding those who have been born, but i think some abortions of human embryos might be justifiable.
For me one of the things I view most favorably about the WT and its
religion is its extremely strong insistence that JWs never intentionally kill another human being.
So have many other religions, but you dont have to be religious to despise war.
Secular humanism is ideologically against war but has nothing to do with religion or religious beliefs..
to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .
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But you have the gull and arrogance to say hey guy you probably weren't a baptized JWS.
Is this just a wisp of power you might have at one time as a JWS ?
We are all aware of the donation arrangement by the WTS/Jworg which started in the early to mid 1980's.
The past leaders of the WTS/JWs were false prophet apostates who propagated doctrines which were no doubt advantageous to the proliferation of the literature they published themselves.
Right DJW ?
...and that made them corrupt and devious religious charlatans
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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I also think there is too much enforced judgment over people's behavior .
Disfellowshipping for example.
Didn't Jesus say to not be overly judgmentally over other Christians but to show and teach his way
Most Christian religions dont make public judgements over people's behavior and bring these matters to a public place like a Kingdom Hall, publicly claiming a certain person is to be shunned.
Is that a Jewish OT way of doing things or a Christian way of doing things ?.
Who are the JWS trying to emulate ? the ancient Hebrews or devoted Christians from Jesus's instructions and guiding directions ?
to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .
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bla bla bla sounds like your trying to white wash over the matter in a attempt reduce your probable guilt .
Where is your rebuttal of the Cassettes packages of Kingdom Melodies or the DVDs ?
The pressure and deliberate persuasion of transferring over building and land Titles of Kingdom Halls ? etc etc.
The evaluation I'm referring to is the overall accumulation of money from various items and endeavors, not just literature sales and proliferation.
Of course there is a commercial aspect to this religion (religious publishing house) as there are to most religions.
Sounds like your still on the fence about this religion and aren't ready to be accurately truthful to its operations.
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Many that have come to this forum have left the JWS religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the JWS religion wrong or incorrect as a active Christian faith ?
Somethings come to mind such as its long continuous End Times/Armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .
Maybe they should have adopted the stance as other Christian based faiths and adhered to Jesus's own words when he said " No One Knows of The Time Not Even He ".
