Or how about what Jesus said when he stated that no one knows of time not even he and admonished his followers to set a time upon god's own sacred time, which makes all of these specific date settings by men and their organizations such as the JWS false, sinful and acts of scriptural apostasy ?
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Why a 1914 Return Date is Impossible
by Sea Breeze inrevelation 20:2-3. and he [jesus] laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years,.
and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.. we see that the millennial reign begins with satan being bound.
he will be bound for 1000 years.
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Were You Affected By Weird Elders?
by minimus inwe all had some to deal with some.
you would ask yourself, “how the hell did this guy ever get to be an elder”???.
we had one elder originally from england that used to wear his pants belted up to his chest with typically a dirty spotted tie and shirt.
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There was one elder in my old hall that was lets say folliclely challenged in mid life, well he was the guy who went about scrutinized all the boy's and men's hair length.
If you were seen with just 1/8 of inch of hair on your ears, he would point you out and take you to the back room for counseling.
We called him the hair Nazi
I myself got taken back to the room by him once when it was noticed I had 1/4 inch of hair resting on top of my ears.
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An Expert Explains the Beginning of Christianity with Dr Richard Carrier
by Rocketman123 inhere is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.
hierarchical political interest may have been involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.
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The ancients were quite imaginative when creating their gods and to their extent of what they were capable of.
If these gods were able to be resurrected after experiencing death, why not ask them to save yourself from experiencing death ?
If these gods were immortal and did not experience illnesses or death, why not ask your select god to save yourself from death ?
A lot people became JWS because they were told that if they remained righteous in the eyes of god they wouldn't be killed at Armageddon and they would live on in a earthly paradise possibly for ever. (immortality)
The concept of resurrection is found in the writings of some ancient non-Abrahamic religions in the Middle East. A few extant Egyptian and Canaanite writings allude to dying and rising gods such as Osiris and Baal. Sir James Frazer in his book The Golden Bough relates to these dying and rising gods,[8] but many of his examples, according to various scholars, distort the sources.[9] Taking a more positive position, Tryggve Mettinger argues in his recent book that the category of rise and return to life is significant for Ugaritic Baal, Melqart, Adonis, Eshmun, Osiris and Dumuzi.[10]
Ancient Greek religion[edit]
In ancient Greek religion a number of men and women became physically immortal as they were resurrected from the dead. Asclepius was killed by Zeus, only to be resurrected and transformed into a major deity. Achilles, after being killed, was snatched from his funeral pyre by his divine mother Thetis and resurrected, brought to an immortal existence in either Leuce, the Elysian plains or the Islands of the Blessed. Memnon, who was killed by Achilles, seems to have received a similar fate. Alcmene, Castor, Heracles, and Melicertes, were also among the figures sometimes considered to have been resurrected to physical immortality. According to Herodotus's Histories, the seventh century BC sage Aristeas of Proconnesus was first found dead, after which his body disappeared from a locked room. Later he found not only to have been resurrected but to have gained immortality.[11]
Many other figures, like a great part of those who fought in the Trojan and Theban wars, Menelaus, and the historical pugilist Cleomedes of Astupalaea, were also believed to have been made physically immortal, but without having died in the first place. Indeed, in Greek religion, immortality originally always included an eternal union of body and soul.[12] As may be witnessed even into the Christian era, not least by the complaints of various philosophers over popular beliefs, traditional Greek believers maintained the conviction that certain individuals were resurrected from the dead and made physically immortal and that for the rest of us, we could only look forward to an existence as disembodied and dead souls.[13]
Greek philosophers generally denied this traditional religious belief in physical immortality. Writing his Lives of Illustrious Men (Parallel Lives) in the first century, the Middle Platonic philosopher Plutarch in his chapter on Romulus gave an account of the mysterious disappearance and subsequent deification of this first king of Rome, comparing it to traditional Greek beliefs such as the resurrection and physical immortalization of Alcmene and Aristeas the Proconnesian, "for they say Aristeas died in a fuller's work-shop, and his friends coming to look for him, found his body vanished; and that some presently after, coming from abroad, said they met him traveling towards Croton". Plutarch openly scorned such beliefs held in traditional ancient Greek religion, writing, "many such improbabilities do your fabulous writers relate, deifying creatures naturally mortal."
Alcestis undergoes resurrection over a three-day period of time,[14] but without achieving immortality.[15]
The parallel between these traditional beliefs and the later resurrection of Jesus was not lost on the early Christians, as Justin Martyr argued: "when we say ... Jesus Christ, our teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propose nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you consider sons of Zeus." (1 Apol. 21).
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An Expert Explains the Beginning of Christianity with Dr Richard Carrier
by Rocketman123 inhere is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.
hierarchical political interest may have been involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.
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Here is another video of Carrier explaining how Christianity started out from Judaism beliefs in the coming Messiah Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHdLgPKv-Nc
Both Early Christianity and Early Rabbinic Judaism were far less orthodox and less theologically homogeneous than they are today; and both religions were significantly influenced by Hellenistic religion and they also borrowed allegories and concepts from Classical Hellenistic philosophy[113] and the works of Greek-speaking Jewish authors of the end of the Second Temple period before the two schools of thought eventually firmed up their respective "norms" and doctrines, notably by diverging increasingly on key issues such as the status of "purity laws", the validity of Judeo-Christian messianic beliefs, and, more importantly, the use of Koine Greek and Latin as sacerdotal languages replacing Biblical Hebrew.[
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An Expert Explains the Beginning of Christianity with Dr Richard Carrier
by Rocketman123 inhere is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.
hierarchical political interest may have been involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.
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Here is an interesting discussion about how Christianity probably began
Hierarchical political interest may have been involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIv8gsCBo_g
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Why JWs Can't Cope With The Real World
by Vanderhoven7 inno clue how i got this.. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1trgavbqlx9e9qv7begvmp0742tpawg3vfkh1eifqepe/edit?usp=drivesdk.
top ten reasons.
(why) jehovah's witnesses can't cope with the real world____________________.
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Quite a good analysis of the JWS religious cult and how it mentally effects people who get involved in it.
This cult mentally entraps people psychologically by using fear, obligation and guilt and by exploiting human ignorance on many levels, such as promoting the distribution of literature and cultivating money.
It is very corrupt and I think became that way because the top leaders of the religion were also executive directors of religoius publishing house, which no doubt influenced the created doctrines which were inherently corrupt and dishonest but commercially advantageous.
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My contact with my still in JWS family members has dropped dramatically over the years partially my own doing partially themselves.
There is no question or debate the JWS religoius cult breaks up families.
Considering this cult has been active for 100 years, one can honestly say there has been by now millions of families badly effected .
Some of this breaking up of families has caused numerous suicides as well, another sad and unfortunate story in itself.
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Was your faith in Armagedddon connected to current events?
by Wasanelder Once inremember when nixon resigned?
the big a was here some said.
remember 1986 and the "international year of peace and security?
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I guess most JWs have too much in the game already to do that.
Yes a little doubt here and there is not enough to drive people out of the Org.
For most people there is too much involving in people's own personal lives to just walk away.
For example some have broken up their relationships with their own personal family members over the Org..
Some are in work related relationships with other JWS too.
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Was your faith in Armagedddon connected to current events?
by Wasanelder Once inremember when nixon resigned?
the big a was here some said.
remember 1986 and the "international year of peace and security?
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The WTS used current events as to suggest that Armageddon was close at hand.
Being a person/child who was brought up in this religion, fear about Armageddon was always placed into my conscious awareness.
Its not any more because I now know its just fictional ancient mythology.
The ancients tried to create power and relevance to their select gods, to make them the almighty god(s), much of the book of Revelation is expressive mythology (fiction).
The propagation of Armageddon was a marketing tool the WTS used to attract attention to its published literature, it somewhat successfully worked.
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What Will Happen If You Do NOT Get The Covid Vaccinations?
by minimus inwe are encouraged to all, if possible, get the vaccinations.
if you don’t, we are told that we definitely could get the virus.
fair enough.. but what happens if you decide you aren’t going to get the shots?
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Once government health officials see through data that 80 % their population has been vaccinated and case numbers drop dramatically, they will assume herd immunity has be established and therefore social restrictions can be lifted.
So please get vaccinated, not just for yourself but your immediate family too and the betterment of everyone in your local community.