Xenawarrior.
NAME UNKNOWN: KILLED BY US/BRITISH IN IRAQ. ONE OF UP TO 8000 CIVILIANS KILLED IN THE LIBERATION OF IRAQ.
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WoMD ... so where are they?
by Simon innow, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!
perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.
now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.
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Skulls of early man or skulls of 'gods'?
by Pleasuredome inhttp://www.enigmas.org/aef/lib/archeo/askulls.shtml
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Here's another research project taking place at the moment. The Starchild Project.
A skull was found of a child that resembles a human but is clearly not.
http://www.dailygrail.com/article.php?sid=1381
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WoMD ... so where are they?
by Simon innow, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!
perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.
now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.
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So Donald Rumsfeld says that the US had NO new evidence of WMD before the war, just the existing evidence seen through the prism of the events of 9/11.
But thats not what they told us before the war, is it?
Rumsfeld brushes aside WMD fears By Steve Schifferes
BBC News Online, Washington
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has admitted that the US had no fresh intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before going to war. Mr Rumsfeld said that attacks on US troops were limitedIt was increased worries about terrorism, not new evidence of Iraqi preparations, that was the key reason for going to war, he told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
"The coalition did not act in Iraq because we had discovered dramatic new evidence of Iraq's pursuit of weapons of mass destruction. We acted because we saw the evidence in a dramatic new light - through the prism of our experience on 9/11," he said.
Mr Rumsfeld said that WMD would eventually be found in Iraq.
He said that the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 "changed our appreciation of our vulnerability - and the risks the US faces from terrorist states and terrorist networks armed with powerful weapons".
One Republican Senator, James Inhofe, argued that the whole controversy over WMDs was a "diversionary tactic by the media".
Tough questions
Mr Rumsfeld stated off in an ebullient mood as he appeared before the committee along with General Tommy Franks, who has just stood down as commander of US forces in Iraq.
Republicans and Democrats alike were eager to praise General Franks for his quick and decisive victory in war, and for his new style of warfare.
But the defence secretary soon faced tough questioning on the current situation in Iraq - and the justification for war.
Mr Rumsfeld attempted to downplay the significance of Tuesday's admission by the White House that allegations that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from the African state of Niger were based on forged documents.
He told the committee that "the fact that the facts change from time to time with respect to specifics does not surprise me or shock me at all; it is all to be expected. It is part of the intelligence world we live in."
Experts upset
Joseph Cirincione, director of the Non-Proliferation project at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said that he was "shocked" by Mr Rumsfeld's comments, and that public statements by senior Bush administration figures had repeatedly claimed that there was new, fresh evidence for WMD programmes in Iraq.
He added that the failure to find any weapons was proof that the much-criticised UN inspections process had been more effective than previously believed. Bush made the uranium claim in his State of the Union address And former key intelligence official in the State Department, Greg Thielmann, said that the Iraqi intelligence estimates "had been misrepresented on the part of the administration", with both "misleading summaries" and "inaccurate formulations" clouding the accuracy of key public statements.
Mr Thielmann, who stood down as military affairs director of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research in October, noted that his boss, Colin Powell, had not repeated the claims made by President Bush about Iraq's nuclear programme in his testimony to the UN.
He said that his agency had rejected such evidence as not well-founded.
He had been "surprised and then appalled" when he heard the nuclear claims had been made by Mr Bush in the State of the Union speech. Soldiers are yet to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Mr Thielmann also said that there was little evidence linking al-Qaeda and Iraq.
Bringing the boys home
Many senators had more local concerns. They wanted to know when the American troops would be coming home, and why Iraqis were still shooting at them.
General Franks admitted that the US would have to maintain its current force levels, of around 145,000 soldiers, in Iraq "for the foreseeable future."
Mr Rumsfeld said that the US was hoping that forces from other nations, including Britain and Poland, would replace some US divisions in the future, with up to 30,000 coalition forces in place by the autumn.
He seemed unable to answer a question by Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, who voted against the war, as to how much the occupation of Iraq would cost.
Mr Rumsfeld's staff later said that current US operations in Iraq cost $4bn per month, or nearly $50bn per year, while Afghanistan costs nearly $1bn per month.
Republican Senator John McCain urged the Bush administration to "give the American people a concrete plan" on the costs and duration of the US occupation in Iraq "even if this is a pessimistic scenario".
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Israel rejects truce with terrorists
by Hamas init was reported today that islamic jihad and hamas have offered a truce in an attempt to push for peace in israel.
instead of accepting this, israel has declined it.
rather, they are prepared to continue targeting more innocent palestinians in the region.
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Seawolf.
Sorry, can't find a downloadable video, but heres the article with a link to get a transcript of the story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm
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The Most Openly Corrupt World Leader.
by searchfothetruth inthe stories coming out of italy at the moment are unbelievable.. berlusconi is the italian prime minister.
he is also the countries biggest media mogul and the president of real madrid football club.. he recently telephoned a live television debate on italy's top political program and shouted at the presenter,( for daring to bring up the scandal that is facing berlusconi ) and said to him ' you are a public sector worker, know your place!'.
he then took the program off the air and sacked the presenter.
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Schroeder axes Italy holiday after official slurs German visitors
WED Jul 09 2003 10:20:23 ET
Berlin (dpa) - German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on Wednesday cancelled a planned vacation to Italy after an Italian government official refused to apologize for referring to German tourists as ``stereotyped blondes with a hyper-nationalist pride.''
``The family ... will spend its vacation at home in Hanover,'' said Schroeder's chief spokesman, Bela Anda.
Anda said this was to ensure a proper holiday without disruptions. Schroeder's move came after the official in Rome who made the remarks, under-secretary Stefano Stefani who is responsible for tourism, rejected making any apology for the comments.
About 10 million German tourists visit Italy each year. Earlier, German Interior Minister Otto Schily - a heavyweight in Schroeder's cabinet - demanded Stefani quit.
Economics and Labour superminister Wolfgang Clement also said Stefani should resign, saying his comments could not be beat for sheer ``idiocy.''
Chancellor Schroeder had been due to begin his vacation in central Italy on July 20.
The row between Rome and Berlin follows bitter words by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who last week had likened a German member of the European parliament to a Nazi concentration camp functionary.
Italy took over the rotating presidency of the European Union (E.U.) on July 1 and there are fears that the acrimony will hamper efforts to hammer out a new constitution by the end of the year.
Stefani published his bombshell commentary last Friday in the Northern League's official newspaper, La Padania.
In it he branded Germans as people ``that have been indoctrinated to feel first in the class'', who ``noisily invade our beaches'' and who have grown up engaging in ``belching competitions after drinking enormous amounts of beer and stuffing themselves with fried kartoffeln (chips).''After Berlusconi told a German MP that he would be good for a part in a film about Nazi's as a camp Commandant, another Italian minister calls German tourists. Nothing like building relations with your neighbors.!
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The concert I enjoyed the most was a total surprise.
I was asked to drive my family to see Garth Brooks when he came to England on his world tour.
Didn't expect to enjoy it but he was fantastic (don't laugh)
He was that good we went to see him again when he added another date to the tour (I know...sad)
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Hunt For Missing Boeing
by searchfothetruth inthis is a strange one.
a jumbo jet that had been sitting on a runnway for 14 months, suddenly starts down a runway, takes off and disappears.. nobody knows who took it, or where it is...i didn't know there were scousers in angola!.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3003058.stm
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Dubla,
Yes I know that he was missing, but they didn't know for sure that he was the pilot.
Just thought i'd post the latest info on the story.
Mark
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Israel rejects truce with terrorists
by Hamas init was reported today that islamic jihad and hamas have offered a truce in an attempt to push for peace in israel.
instead of accepting this, israel has declined it.
rather, they are prepared to continue targeting more innocent palestinians in the region.
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BBC World TV Points Finger
By Hans Lebrecht*
At Israel's WMD
7-7-3- In a 50-minute documentary reportage, the BBC World Service Television pointed its finger on Israelâs armament with nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction, not found so far in Iraq. The documentary, repeatedly broadcast on Saturday, June 28, under the title "Israelâs Secret Weapons" opened with four questions:
- 1) Which country in the Middle East has undeclared nuclear weapons?
- 2) Which country in the Middle East has undeclared biological and chemical capabilities?
- 3) Which country has no outside inspections?
- 4) Which country jailed its nuclear whistleblower for 18 years?
- The last question was concerned about the fate of the whistle-blower Mordechai Vanunu who is incarcerated already 17 years, 11 of them in absolute isolation, for having warned the world about the production of atomic weaponry in Israel, related by his American adoptive parents, Mary and Nick Eoloff of St.Paul, Minnesota. (His biological parents declared him dead after he was convicted for High Treason and Spying in a secret trial, while his brother Meir Vanunu remained one of the most ardent supporters of Mordechai.) Mordechai Vanunu, a former technician employed for ten years in the Dimona ãAtomic Research Reactorä in the Israeli southern desert region, revealed to a reporter of the London Sunday Times the secret production of nuclear weapons in several subterranean storeys of that reactor. The detailed report was published in October 1986. Vanunu was kidnapped in Rome by the Israeli secret intelligence Mossad agency and shipped to Israel, where he was put on trial and convicted. The London Times reporter, now a freelance journalist, Peter Hanoun, as well as the Eoloff couple, former Vietnam War resistors, appeared as witnesses at the BBC program.
- What was the reaction to this broadcast by the rulers of this, by all means presented democratic State of Israel? The Government Press Office, a department of the Prime Minister Office, barred BBC correspondents accredited in Israel from contacts with government ministers and officials, as well as from official press conferences (with the exception of such by the PM). Daniel Seaman, the head of the GPO, alleged that the broadcast had served those who demonize Israel and anti-Semitic elements. This, he said, a democratic State like Israel cannot tolerate. The Foreign Press Association in Israel protested this step, seeing in it a dangerous infringement on the freedom of the press, as well as a ãslippery slope that can lead to the illegitimate attempts to exert pressure on news organizations or journalists whose reporting is deemed unfavorable to the governmentâs policyä.
- Since already days ahead of that BBC broadcast the media manipulated by the government and right-wing party bureaus have started a campaign against it, the ratings of watching it was exceptionally high, according to press reports.
- The fact that Israel is producing and stockpiling nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry is already known since decades to the world at large, and to whom is interested. However, the official Israel is still keeping the whole matter under a seal of secrecy, rejects international inspection, and speaks only of an unnamed ãdeterrent factor against aspirations by Arab regimes to eliminate Israel and exterminate the Jewish citizensä.
- What then had aroused the anger of the Israeli authorities? The BBC report, moderated by Olenka Frenklien, was part of a critical serial, titled ãCorrespondentä, inspired by the U.S.-British Iraq war, started under the pretext of a need to topple the Saddam Hussein regime, which allegedly was arming his army with weapons of mass destruction, never found so far. It was this comparison with the Iraq war pretext, which particularly angered the Israeli powers-that-be.
- The main witnesses interviewed by the programâs host, O. Frenklien, had been besides the Eoloffs, the journalist Peter Hanoun, who brought Vanunuâs story to be pubvlished; Vanunuâs defense attorney Avigdor Feldmann of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, as well as Israeli officials. Among the latter was most conspicuous the Nobel Peace Price Laureate and former Prime Minister, Defense and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres is known to be ãthe Father of the Israeli Nukeä. Already during the early 1950âs, in his capacity of General Director of the Prime Minister (David Ben-Gurion) office, Peres established, first with the assistance of France, then changing the sponsorship to the U.S., the alleged research reactor at Dimona. Too, enhancing the Israeli Arms Industries, he already then established the Ness-Ziona research institute for biological and chemical armament.
- Sh. Peres, interviewed by Frenklien, answered with the usual phrases of a need for a deterrent factor. But when asked what might be the reason that the U.S. Administration, so up in arms and waging a war because of the alleged existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, keeps mum on such weapons in the hands of Israel, Peres, obviously in a furious mood, answered ãHow dare you to compare the dictatorial regime of the mass killer Saddam Hussein with the democratic regime in Israel?ä.
- Instead of arguing with that Peres remark, the broadcast continued to show horrible scenes of the Israeli 1982 invasion of Lebanon, inspired by the then defense Minister (and current PM) Ariel Sharon, including scenes of the brutal two-days bombardment of the Lebanese capital Beirut, of massacres in different Palestinian refugee camps, including the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila by Lebanese fascist elements under the supervision of Sharon.
- The programâs host interviewed also a few of the over a hundred former workers at the Dimona nuclear weapon production line, who had contracted cancerous diseases from having been exposed to longtime radioactivity, and fighting to receive compensation for it, so far rejected to be recognized as victims of working conditions.
- Frenklien asked defense attorney Avigdor Feldmann about his opinion of what was the reason behind the heavy sentence of his client, as well as having refused to release him on probation after he had fulfilled two years ago two thirds of his term, usual given to any criminal. Feldmann answered, that Vanunu was kidnapped and forcefully brought before a secret tribunal not so much for his having warned the world about the nuclear armament of Israel, or having caused the publication of the matter, but mainly as revenge for his having broken an Israeli Taboo about it.
- Other important witnesses at the BBC documentary, representing the group for arousing national Israeli and international solidarity with Mordechai Vanunu, had been the Israeli leading activists of the Committee for Freedom for Vanunu and for a Nuclear Free Zone in the Middle East, Rayna Moss and Gideon Spira.
- Very impressive had been the scenes which showed the address of the Arab Knesset deputy Issam Mahoul of the (communist led) HADASH Front, when he three years ago raised for the first time (and meanwhile the last time) in the history of the Israeli Parliament the matter of Israelâs armament with weapons of mass destruction from the rostrum at a plenary session. ãMordechai Vanunu was not the problem of the issueä, Mahoul said. ãThe problem is the policy of the government that turned the territory of a relatively small country into a poisoning waste bin which could make us all disappear into a nuclear cloudä. The documentary showed Mahoul, when he, interrupted by furious catcalls, pointed to the fact that the whole world knows that Israel has become one vast nuclear, biological and chemical arms warehouse, which is used as an anchor for a nuclear arms race in the region. In further scenes, taken at a public meeting, Issam Mahoul stated, that if asked by international inspectors, if such would arrive, he could show them installations of nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry not only in Dimona and Nes-Ziona, but also in the northern Haifa Bay, in the Galilean Sakhneen and Eilabum areas, in the Southern Yitfata vicinity, and other places.
- The documentary closed with scenes of anti-war manifestations in the USA, at which the Eoloff couple took part, and the latest visit of them at the Israeli Ashqelon prison at which their adopted son Mordechai Vanunu is incarcerated.
- The impressive BBC documentary has given extensive answers to all four opening questions. It should be noted, that this documentary came intentionally in the wake of the Iraq war and the gibbering of the Great Iraq Phyruss Victor, George W. Bush, who declared that Israel, without mentioning its arsenal of those weaponry and its terror occupation policy ãhas the full right for defending Israel and its citizens by all meansä.
- * An Israeli journalist and publicist living in Kibbutz Beit-Oren. He can be reached at: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
- http://www.amin.org/eng/uncat/2003/jul/jul06.html
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Hunt For Missing Boeing
by searchfothetruth inthis is a strange one.
a jumbo jet that had been sitting on a runnway for 14 months, suddenly starts down a runway, takes off and disappears.. nobody knows who took it, or where it is...i didn't know there were scousers in angola!.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3003058.stm
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So it seems that the Boeing that went missing was piloted by an American...and now he has disappeared, presumed dead.
Pilot Of Stolen Boeing
Probably Killed Says Brother 7-8-3- An American pilot who sparked a global terrorist alert when he disappeared in Africa with a fully-fuelled jetliner has probably been murdered, his brother said yesterday.
- In an exclusive interview with Scotland on Sunday, Joe Padilla spoke for the first time of his belief that his brother Ben was hijacked at the controls of the Boeing 727 at Luanda airport in Angola and killed after the plane took off without permission, vanishing without trace.
- Neither Ben Padilla, who comes from Miami, nor the plane have been seen since their disappearance on the evening of May 25, despite an extensive search across the continent by several African nations, the US State Department and the CIA.
- "I hate to say it, but my brother is probably deceased," said Joe Padilla from his home in Pensacola, Florida.
- "He would have been in touch with his family had he been able to. We desperately want to see him home again, but we are steeling ourselves for the worst."
- Padilla's mystery disappearance prompted fears that terrorists had taken the plane for a September 11-style suicide attack somewhere in Africa, particularly because the aircraft, a former American Airlines passenger jet, had been converted into a fuel carrier and had just been filled with 14,000 gallons.
- At first the family discounted terrorism, preferring to believe a theory that the plane might have crashed through mechanical failure because it had spent 14 months on the Tarmac in Luanda and had not been properly maintained.
- But Padilla says he has new information from the planeís owner, the president of an aircraft-leasing firm in Miami, which points instead to a hijacking. Ben, a 51-year-old freelance pilot who has flown cargo planes around the world for more than 20 years, was hired to organise the repossession of the plane from a company that failed to maintain lease payments.
- "Ben spent two-and-a-half months in Angola overseeing a full reworking of the plane so it was in tip-top condition," Padilla said. "On the day it disappeared, Ben was only taking the plane out to the end of the runway and back just to see how things were working. He wasn't licensed to fly a plane as big as that and the two pilots he was hiring weren't even on board, so that tells me right there it's been hijacked.
- "The plane took off without permission and failed to respond to the control tower, but we don't know what happened after that. We hope he was just captured, but I have to doubt he's still alive. I hope I'm wrong, but whoever took that plane probably killed him."
- Padilla also rejects a theory that Ben was part of a plot to steal the plane. "Two days before he disappeared, he paid $43,000 of the owner's money to the airport authorities to clear the bill for the plane having been there so long. If my brother had stolen the plane, he'd have taken the money also."
- American authorities believe the aircraft was more likely to have been taken for criminal purposes such as smuggling drugs or weapons rather than any terrorist activity, although the FBI will not reveal any details of their investigation.
- Whatever the truth of Benís disappearance, however, his family have been deeply affected. "We were all very close, and he used to call me wherever he was," said Padilla, who said his sister Benita and her baby son Johnathan were also missing him.
- "We got an e-mail to him a couple of months ago telling him our mother had had a heart attack and he promised to call as soon as he was able, but since then we've heard nothing.
- "But we've got to keep searching, even if he's dead. If he is, we want his body home."
- http://www.news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=735302003
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The Watchtower & the cigarette company
by expatbrit ini: some relevant quotes from watchtower publications
1: the position of the watchtower as regards smoking
*** jv 181 13 recognized by our conduct ***.
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Great thread Expatbrit,
I phoned my mum up today and told her all about it....of course its just lies put about by apostates (thats you).
Thanks for the info...well researched
Mr Rumsfeld said that attacks on US troops were limited
Bush made the uranium claim in his State of the Union address 
Soldiers are yet to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq