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  "You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"

  by minimus in

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  that's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.

  i mentioned it all on my other thread.

  i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.

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  There's a believer, getting its time in.
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  Anthony Morris Made a special appearance on JW Broadcasting to talk child abuse.

  by NikL in

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  just popped on to see if december broadcast was up and it's not.. however, there is a new vid of bro.

  morris addressing child abuse within the org.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodstudio/pub-jwban_201507_2_video.

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  You say it like the rank and file don't want to be kept in the dark.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Believer, try watching the video rather than the title.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  How many religions teach you so many truths of the bible like JW do?
  

  I maintain that most elders would not pass the entrance exam to seminary, nor would they retain their beliefs if they completed the program. There is plenty about the Bible that is never taught from any Kingdom Hall podium, I am sorry to have to inform you.

  http://religion.unc.edu/_people/full-time-faculty/ehrman/

  https://youtu.be/bONyPjvRsuo
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  JW aren't going on TV to preach, everybody has their own beliefs. So they wouldn't beleive the org anway. Probably no one would watch it but believers.
  

  Then why preach? I thought this was a lifesaving work.
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  Lilith

  by schnell in

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  so i just learned about adam's first wife, made from the same dirt as him.

  some of the google images that came up made me want to hurl.. if you're not aware, there is talmudic lore about adam having a wife named lilith who left him after he wouldn't submit to her, and what's more, she is pictured as the serpent who tempted eve.

  a lot of that seemed to develop in the middle ages though.

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  So I just learned about Adam's first wife, made from the same dirt as him. Some of the Google images that came up made me want to hurl.

  If you're not aware, there is Talmudic lore about Adam having a wife named Lilith who left him after he wouldn't submit to her, and what's more, she is pictured as the serpent who tempted Eve. A lot of that seemed to develop in the middle ages though. She's also a succubus and an apparently common figure in Wicca and Thelema and such. Iunno, the whole thing's weird.

  The Hebrew "lilith" is used only once in Bible canon, at Isaiah 34:14 as the screeching owl or night creature. She basically sounds like a really old version of La Llorona to me, right down to the bit about killing little kids.

  So yeah. That's the kind of superstition a lot of people put their faith in. Pardon me, I'm gonna go have some nightmares now...
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  Jehovah's Limp Witnesses Pointed Me to JW.org When I Was Willing to Talk

  by steve2 in

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  several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.

  they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.

  this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".

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  I also don't completely buy it that religion is "dying". There are many religious and spiritual people in the world, and there are many spiritualists in the world who are open to belief in ghosts and such without a strong religious commitment. For every Dawkins and Sam "End of Faith" Harris and Aron-Ra, there is someone like Joel Osteen and Deepak Chopra writing bestsellers. With so much trauma today, it is inevitable that many people find comfort in some religious belief.
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  Jehovah's Limp Witnesses Pointed Me to JW.org When I Was Willing to Talk

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
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  several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.

  they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.

  this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".

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  Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position.
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  I think my house is haunted

  by Steel in

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  things seem to go bump in the night.

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  any idea if i should talk to the elder or what they would say?.

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  Lol @scratchme1010

  The Catholic Church is a step up in that field unless there is a GB member who have experience in getting rid of Demons. I believe the lower elders are not qualified for that task.
  

  Does Shepherd The Flock cover hauntings at any time? I'm mildly curious.

  Also this thread is interestingly timed, because my wife and I just watched this:

  https://youtu.be/1KgSp94nCZw
  

  What a crock. Even when the "demon" is talking through her, "it" apparently messes up and has to cover itself. Oooh, it said Cain... Even though hominids have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and Cain is a character in a 6th century myth.

  Her superhuman strength even at 80 pounds? The girl was a tragic physiological mess. She had no inhibition. Physically, I need only point out certain martial arts masters of small stature who could channel their chi and rip trees right up out of the ground. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

  Methodological naturalist here. Spiritualism can go to hell.
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  I think my house is haunted

  by Steel in

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  things seem to go bump in the night.

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  @rebelfighter: Yep. A local ghost hunter in my area was on public radio for Halloween talking about cases like that. He mentioned that EMF from old electronics can have very strange effects at times, even including the sensation that you've been touched. I find that easy to believe, because I've worked in places where I was required to carry a radio, and I always always felt when there was a call about to come in. My mother, while mourning for my dead father with the old tube TV running for hours, said she felt an angel's hand on her shoulder.

  In very very rare instances, they're stumped and offer to do a ritual to "expel" whatever's there, but even then, he noted that the ritual is a psychological placebo.