Most believers don't understand that about 6th century Babylonian cosmology. They mistakenly read modern science into Genesis, Job (older than 6th century, I know) and Isaiah, even where it doesn't make much sense. The result is an apologetic mess.
schnell
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Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?
by evilApostate inand god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.
god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.
god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.
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Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?
by evilApostate inand god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.
god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.
god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.
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My New Apostate Word Invention. Your thoughts?
by Iamallcool in"jehovah's witnesses are too cultish for my liking" what do you think about my new word invention?.
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schnell
There will always be cults of some form, because humans are political animals. This is why common sense, independence and self-reliance are so important.
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My New Apostate Word Invention. Your thoughts?
by Iamallcool in"jehovah's witnesses are too cultish for my liking" what do you think about my new word invention?.
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Culty. They're too culty.
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Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?
by smiddy inromans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".
isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?
that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?
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schnell
But no, the author of Revelation wrote, "Woe to the earth," so God was bound by that holy writ.
Nothing about this makes any sense.
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Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 2
by will-be-apostate inwell here am i, a couple of years passed since my original post (link here), somewhat less mysoginistic, more open to relationships, heartbroken again.
this is an official "fuck my life" thread.. being chased by the elders makes one arrive at the conclusion that there is nothing better than not being chased by the elders.
i had a pre-jc meeting a week ago.
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"And that's why men are cruel and use us, women, as toys. If you wanna get laid, don't tell the girl you love her, just get laid. That way nobody gets hurt."
See what I did?
I doubt the veracity of some details in this story, because you go from a one night stand with a girl who just saw you and took you to the dance floor, to break-up Facebook messages in "a couple hours". I have also seen fake stories online where the author decided to flatter himself by saying the girl thought he was so amazing. Just sayin'.
In any case, move on.
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Quality of newer membership
by Lostandfound inon a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.
i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.
the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.
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It is an interesting shift that at this point in the game, they are not open for debate. They don't even prepare for it or recommend it. Instead, they just assume they are right, look for pre-disposed interest or circumstantial weakness, and move on. They attack any source of criticism within their ranks like an immune system. They isolate themselves in an echo chamber and congratulate each other for doing so.
They're like a population that has become isolated and incestuous. Growth has stagnated. Food has diminished in quality, quantity, and variety. Sexual partners are to be found only in the group to keep up identity and integrity, but this has limited growth and solidified the identity as weird to everybody else. The main source of water for this population has been a steady stream of bad news about the outside world. They love bad news, but now that stream is rising and threatening their own infrastructure. They hold the flood waters off with levies here and there, and they attack any of their own who speak out about the dire situation. Eventually, the levies will break, and the population will break up and evolve. And the world spins on.
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Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?
by smiddy inromans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".
isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?
that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?
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*shrug*
You'd think a violent and "just" god who loves violence would smack this accuser down. You'd really think so.
I know the rationalization. We choose with our own free will to serve Jehovah and allow him to make a response to the one taunting him. K. Got it.
But this is the god that killed a guy just for reaching out to catch the Ark of the Covenant.
Edit: Oh, he hates violence, though. I forgot.
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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I can imagine that my old friends heard the theme and think the big A is super close, since they do know someone close to them who gave up.
I'll be here when they come around.
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'Happy birthday to writer and rock star Patricia Lee “Patti” Smith, born Chicago, Ill. 70 years ago today.'
by no password in'happy birthday to writer and rock star patricia lee “patti” smith, born chicago, ill. 70 years ago today.
her family moved to philadelphia and eventually new jersey, where she was raised.
her mother was a devout jehovah’s witness which informed patti’s religious views, both pro- and anti-.'.
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schnell
My respect for Patti Smith just went up.