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  An interesting reasoning for the existence of God (from JW public talk)

  by anointed1 in

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  i was on an official tour last week to another part of my country.

  on my way to the hotel, i noticed sign-board of jw kingdom hall.

  i thought i would attend sunday meeting as i knew no one would recognize me.. seeing “a new-comer” in the audience, public speaker adapted his material making it especially appealing to me.

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  Are we on about consciousness or life on Earth?

  When creationists talk about how special human consciousness is, it always seems to me like they are selling other animals short, even though many other species also show personality and awareness beyond mere stimuli.

  I hate to sound like a downer, but we are a species of such narcissists. It's kind of hilarious. It's not enough that we take the name "homo sapiens" ("wise man"). It's not enough that we have evidence of our natural evolution in Africa, as well as evidence of admixture from other hominids. It's not even enough that we have evidence of other hominids around the world, too.

  No, we also have to believe in an unmarried invisible father who created us with a golem spell, a sort of virgin birth from the red earth itself. (Why not a mother? Well, there are reasons for that, and it's because patriarchy took over though godesses came before gods.)

  What if... there is no such thing as a Spirit, and God is (at best) a metaphor? What if we are afraid of not being special?
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  Aron-Ra: Meteorology and the Flood

  by schnell in

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  a few days ago, aron-ra posted a new video commencing what he promises to be a new series debunking the noachian flood.

  he did this despite the fact that every adult should know it didn't happen, and yet many do.. i'd like to remind everyone what the insight book says: .

  the genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it.

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  A few days ago, Aron-Ra posted a new video commencing what he promises to be a new series debunking the Noachian Flood. He did this despite the fact that every adult should know it didn't happen, and yet many do.

  I'd like to remind everyone what the Insight book says:

  Where did this “heavenly ocean” come from? The Genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” Jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “Heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it. (Ge 1:6-8) The waters suspended above the expanse evidently remained there from the second “day” of creation until the Flood. This is what the apostle Peter was talking about when he recounted that there “were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God.” Those “heavens” and the waters above and beneath them were the means that God’s word called into operation, and “by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.” (2Pe 3:5, 6) Various explanations have been offered as to how the water was held aloft until the Flood and as to the processes that resulted in its falling. But these are only speculative. The Bible says simply that God made the expanse with waters above it and that he brought the Deluge. His almighty power could easily accomplish it.

  Since, as the Genesis account says, “all the tall mountains” were covered with water, where is all that water now? Evidently it is right here on the earth.

  Aron-Ra tackles that belief, too, and explains how life would be under a global water canopy. Enjoy.

  https://youtu.be/vWZtbZGtiGA
  
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  Walking away will get you D/Fed

  by Drifting Away in

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  someone just told my wife, that those who are just leaving organization or not going anymore will be dfed, has anyone read that or heard of that?

  i have seen nothing of that, and according to jackson at royal commission, we are free to go as we please...

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  @poopie, "Oh, except you, Your Honor!... And you, Officer..."
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  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

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  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

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  LOL @jwleaks

  We got excited with the bunker video even going so far as lending the Watchtower our special forces team for the production shoot but nothing happened.
  

  Now hold on, wait a minute, the UN special forces don't wear gloves? Isn't that just so the UN?
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  GRACE? GRACE? What the F*** is GRACE? Jehovah's Witnesses have no idea!

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  i think all of us ex-j-dubs have had the --i'll call it a privilege--to exchange views with others who think differently than we do.

  we encounter "christians" from mainstream churches.our dialogue is sort of...like speaking to martians.sooner or later, an ex-dub smacks into a wall.

  that wall is a subject which is never spoken about or taught by the gb or watchtower with any candor.

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  It is interesting to see just how terrifically different my old born-in beliefs are from mainstream Christianity. As an atheist, I have also considered joining the Unitarian Universalists, as much as I have a Freethinkers group and maybe both, though I don't see a big important reason to do so. Maybe to make some more friends, and why else. It would totally piss off my in-laws though.

  At this point, I am annoyed by positive references to Christ and the Bible, while also aware that I'm annoyed...
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  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

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  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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  @dubstepped, Shit! I accidentally disliked your comment! No no no, I completely agree.

  I would do whatever I could to get out of the study, absolutely don't get baptized, and follow Village Idiot's advice.
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  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
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  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

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  While we're at it, the Watchtower has made a pretty specific prediction as to just how this will happen. They could've taken a hint from fortune tellers and stayed vague, but I guess it doesn't matter. They're already false prophets as it is.

  Another thing: If Jehovah was going to put it into their hearts, wouldn't that mean taking away their supposed free will? If so, why hasn't he done that already?
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  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

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  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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  @Magnum, Jeeeeeeeezus. Just today, I saw a driver in traffic who did something that I realized was the absolute stupidest thing I have ever personally seen. That, right there, is the stupidest thing I have ever read. So we're on a roll here.

  What did you say to him afterwards, Magnum? Please, tell me this stupid idea didn't go unchallenged!
  
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  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

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  The UN banning religion would have as much success as if it tried to ban McDonalds.

  (respectful_observer)
  

  Ha! I never thought of it that way.

  Let's see how we would feel if the UN banned stuff.

  What if the UN banned alcohol?

  What if the UN banned automobiles?

  What if the UN banned hate speech?

  What if the UN banned all positions except missionary?

  What if the UN endorsed all other positions and banned missionary?

  What if the UN banned stinky pewy things that smell bad?

  What if the UN didn't ban but sanctioned religions that violate their Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
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  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

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  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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  I know of one, who was a presiding overseer and regular pioneer, who thought that the term "Judaism" came from judo, and that those who practiced Judaism were experts in martial arts.
  

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