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  Question on the sun created in the fourth day

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the first day elohim created light, and it was day and night in the first day.

  then in the fourth day he created the sun, the moon and the stars.

  of course, it did not actually happen, but what did the writer have in mind?.

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  It isn't scientific cosmology. It's myth. You know how most creation myths start with a big battle between gods and monsters?

  "In the beginning, Elohim (many gods) bārā (not created, but cut out) the heavens and the earth. And the earth was tōhū and bōhū, and the darkness was on the surface of the tehōm."

  Tehōm is the primordial ocean, space or Absolute. Tōhū and bōhū, mistranslated "without form and void," connoted the monstrous and the violent. As Professor Jeremias, the German orientalist, says: "There can be no doubt that tōhū is connected with Ti(h)amat and bōhū with Behemoth. Bōhū is the equivalent of the the Babylonian Apsu, the male mate of Tiamat."

  (Deceptions and Myths of the Bible by Lloyd M. Graham)
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  Jehovah sure loves foreskins!

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.

  he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.

  it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?

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  See what you did, rebel8?!!! Lol
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  I really hate the word "ones".

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  necessary as it is at times, i hate this word.

  for one thing, "ones" is a plural form of the number 1. that is dumb, and it's reason enough to avoid it where it isn't entirely necessary.. one could argue that it never is necessary, but it can still come up in colloquial dialogue when discussing objects.

  jw leaders use it to discuss people.. interestingly, jws even did this to jesus christ in their own translation of the bible, referring to him in ephesians 1:7 with "through the blood of that one" where another translation would say something like "through his blood".

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  No, mostly because, going beyond the questionable grammar, the use of "ones" is part of JW-speak, that distinct manner and style that wishes to be hypnotic. I've had enough "ones" and "is it not"s and find it mostly abhorrent.
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  Promise Keepers

  by schnell in

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  2. friends

  "real men keep their promises.".

  i remember that bumper sticker from the 90s when i was a teenager in texas.

  i didn't know it was attached to a kind of cult.. this article is 14 years old, and may well have appeared on this site before, but i'd like to reference it anyway because i see parallels, of course.. whatever happened to the promise keepers?.

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  Oh sure. The WTS decline is being felt in comparable ways, and that is what I find pleasant.
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  Jehovah sure loves foreskins!

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.

  he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.

  it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?

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  schnell

  Obligatory at this juncture:

  https://youtu.be/gCSWbTv3hng
  
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  Brother Hitting on Df'd Brothers Wife at KH

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  interesting story i have a friend who is df but his wife still faithfully goes to meetings.

  there's a single brother in the cong that is always flirting with his wife.

  well at a recent meeting my df friend decided to show up to check this brother out.

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  schnell

  The single guy probably thinks he can pretend the disfellowshipped guy is dead.

  The single guy may find himself having his ass kicked by a "ghost."

  Hopefully there won't be two or more witnesses to this supernatural event.

  I think those two witnesses would say they "didn't see nothin'".
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  Brother Hitting on Df'd Brothers Wife at KH

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  interesting story i have a friend who is df but his wife still faithfully goes to meetings.

  there's a single brother in the cong that is always flirting with his wife.

  well at a recent meeting my df friend decided to show up to check this brother out.

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  That is a Freudian gesture if there ever was one.
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  How do JW's determine a person is anointed?

  by thinker11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've always wondered about this.

  when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.

  does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?

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  I can't say I have, @Nathan Natas. So 20 years before I was born, there was a great excitement over a lot of hot air, eh?
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  Jehovah sure loves foreskins!

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.

  he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.

  it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?

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  schnell

  @David_Jay, I'm gonna ramble a little bit here... I should do more research in those areas, but there will always be plenty that I just won't know. It's lost to me.

  To think, too, that if I were to go back tens of thousands of years, eventually I could find ancient relatives who were... (Gasp!) Neanderthal. This is a hominid species that is mostly lost to time and history, but that evidently did have intelligence and intuition and emotion about them. At the same time, I could find Sapien relatives migrating throughout Europe, as well as their family in Africa. On the Western hemisphere, I might even track down some ancient family (I'm honestly not sure if ancient Native Americans would be considered Denisovan or another variant).

  And in fact, since Sapiens evidently came from Africa, I have read some about African origins of religion. Really fascinating stuff.

  At some point, a lot of things happened and a lot of people died and a lot of cultures passed, and I am alive today. And my wife? Black and Mexican. I want our kids to have culture, and not a culture of fear and indoctrination... Just some mythology, history, and a good humanist philosophy to live by.

  But anyway, circumcisions. :P
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  Jehovah sure loves foreskins!

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.

  he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.

  it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?

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  schnell

  I'm certain those of us here understand that the Bible is not to be taken literally. When it is, it's ridiculous, horrendous, and self-satirical.

  Ya know, @David_Jay, it bothers me that I know less about Irish or Cherokee lore than I do about lore from the Middle East and Egypt. That really does bother me lately as we discuss these things.