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schnell
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7th Day Adventist growth/decline stats similar to JWs
by fukitol inthe sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.
increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Well, witnesses are free to change their religion, of course... Right?
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Article 9 - conscience and religion
Main article: Article 9 of the European Convention on Human RightsArticle 9 provides a right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This includes the freedom to change a religion or belief, and to manifest a religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance, subject to certain restrictions that are "in accordance with law" and "necessary in a democratic society"
Relevant cases are:
- Kokkinakis v. Greece [1993] ECHR 20
- Universelles Leben e.V. v. Germany [1996] (app. no. 29745/96)
- Buscarini and Others v. San Marino [1999] ECHR 7
- Pichon and Sajous v. France [2001] ECHR 898
- Leyla Şahin v. Turkey [2004] ECHR 299
- Leela Förderkreis E.V. and Others v. Germany [2008] ECHR
- Lautsi v. Italy [2011] ECHR 2412
- S.A.S. v. France [2014] ECHR 695
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Cool. Hey, that ECHR, the Watchtower doesn't break that ever, do they?
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How do JW's determine a person is anointed?
by thinker11 ini've always wondered about this.
when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.
does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?
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schnell
Well that's as convincing as any.
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Hundreds?
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Question on the sun created in the fourth day
by opusdei1972 inin the first day elohim created light, and it was day and night in the first day.
then in the fourth day he created the sun, the moon and the stars.
of course, it did not actually happen, but what did the writer have in mind?.
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schnell
It isn't scientific cosmology. It's myth. You know how most creation myths start with a big battle between gods and monsters?
"In the beginning, Elohim (many gods) bārā (not created, but cut out) the heavens and the earth. And the earth was tōhū and bōhū, and the darkness was on the surface of the tehōm."
Tehōm is the primordial ocean, space or Absolute. Tōhū and bōhū, mistranslated "without form and void," connoted the monstrous and the violent. As Professor Jeremias, the German orientalist, says: "There can be no doubt that tōhū is connected with Ti(h)amat and bōhū with Behemoth. Bōhū is the equivalent of the the Babylonian Apsu, the male mate of Tiamat."
(Deceptions and Myths of the Bible by Lloyd M. Graham)
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Jehovah sure loves foreskins!
by rebel8 inan atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.
he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.
it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?
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schnell
See what you did, rebel8?!!! Lol
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I really hate the word "ones".
by schnell innecessary as it is at times, i hate this word.
for one thing, "ones" is a plural form of the number 1. that is dumb, and it's reason enough to avoid it where it isn't entirely necessary.. one could argue that it never is necessary, but it can still come up in colloquial dialogue when discussing objects.
jw leaders use it to discuss people.. interestingly, jws even did this to jesus christ in their own translation of the bible, referring to him in ephesians 1:7 with "through the blood of that one" where another translation would say something like "through his blood".
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schnell
No, mostly because, going beyond the questionable grammar, the use of "ones" is part of JW-speak, that distinct manner and style that wishes to be hypnotic. I've had enough "ones" and "is it not"s and find it mostly abhorrent.
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Promise Keepers
by schnell in"real men keep their promises.".
i remember that bumper sticker from the 90s when i was a teenager in texas.
i didn't know it was attached to a kind of cult.. this article is 14 years old, and may well have appeared on this site before, but i'd like to reference it anyway because i see parallels, of course.. whatever happened to the promise keepers?.
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schnell
Oh sure. The WTS decline is being felt in comparable ways, and that is what I find pleasant.