Born in, baptized at 14, was known for giving good talks and independent research, left the bullshit behind last year at 31 after increasing doubt and climactic disillusionment. I turn 32 on the Ides of March.
schnell
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Smelly WATCHTOWERS
by Zoos inin 1967 i had the misfortune of being born with a watchtower stuck in my ass.
it took 45 years for me to realize, "hey!
there's a watchtower stuck in my ass!
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Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂
by Gorbatchov ingorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
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schnell
@FedUpJW what in the fucking hell???
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Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂
by Gorbatchov ingorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
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schnell
Maybe they can prove that the parousia actually occurred in 1931, when God gave them a new name.This will allow them to return to the old understanding of "this generation", buying them more time.
When I explained to my very indoctrinated friend that Jerusalem absolutely did not fall in 607 BCE but 20 years later, and how that throws off the 2520 years, he went from a shocked face to a happy face and said they'll switch it to 1934 "to buy more time!"
Problem: It's 2017. If they wanted to do that to buy time and for the sake of accuracy, they really should have done it back in the 70s, 80s or even the 90s when it had been made clear to them that 607 is totally wrong.
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Has WT actually drafted an End of Days tract?
by schnell ini heard in years past that there was such a tract planned for the great tribulation.
my father at the time denied this, and reasoned that that would not be a loving thing for them to do, to essentially say, "told ya so!".
last year, the bunker videos had brother brown mention "a message of judgment".. has such material been drafted or is this just another bluff?.
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schnell
That's what I thought. Thanks, Nathan Natas.
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7th Day Adventist growth/decline stats similar to JWs
by fukitol inthe sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.
increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.
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7th Day Adventist growth/decline stats similar to JWs
by fukitol inthe sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.
increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.
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schnell
Sundays only? That bastard!
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Well, witnesses are free to change their religion, of course... Right?
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Article 9 - conscience and religion
Main article: Article 9 of the European Convention on Human RightsArticle 9 provides a right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This includes the freedom to change a religion or belief, and to manifest a religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance, subject to certain restrictions that are "in accordance with law" and "necessary in a democratic society"
Relevant cases are:
- Kokkinakis v. Greece [1993] ECHR 20
- Universelles Leben e.V. v. Germany [1996] (app. no. 29745/96)
- Buscarini and Others v. San Marino [1999] ECHR 7
- Pichon and Sajous v. France [2001] ECHR 898
- Leyla Şahin v. Turkey [2004] ECHR 299
- Leela Förderkreis E.V. and Others v. Germany [2008] ECHR
- Lautsi v. Italy [2011] ECHR 2412
- S.A.S. v. France [2014] ECHR 695
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Russia to liquidate Jehovah's Witnesses' organization
by processor inhttp://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
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schnell
Cool. Hey, that ECHR, the Watchtower doesn't break that ever, do they?
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How do JW's determine a person is anointed?
by thinker11 ini've always wondered about this.
when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.
does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?
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schnell
Well that's as convincing as any.