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  The Triune Polytheism; the 'Trinity'

  by the-Question in

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  the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.

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  The most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the Universe
  

  I don't think I'd apply that kind of rhetoric to the Trinity. It's hardly the most complex or unwieldy religious concept, and I don't find it more innately ridiculous than so many others.
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  Interesting comment at circuit assembly demo homosexuality

  by poopie in

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  demo talking about view of girls comeing out as lesbian.

  comment was we respect lesbians.

  but i was thinking some do not respect a person enough to speak to them at kh if there df wow..

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  Would they still respect her if she started coming to meetings with her wife?
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  Question (and answer): What does it mean to believe in someone?

  by schnell in

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  "do you believe in jesus?".

  yes.. "do you believe in jehovah?".

  yes.. "do you believe in the grand man of the universe?".

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  "Do you believe in Jesus?"

  Yes.

  "Do you believe in Jehovah?"

  Yes.

  "Do you believe in the Grand Man of the Universe?"

  Yes.

  "Are all of these things real to you?"

  Sure.

  "Do they exist in the real world, consisting of all possible realms both perceptible and imperceptible to human beings, or did they ever?"

  No.

  I believe in Jesus the same way I believe in Spider-Man and Darth Vader, and I take issue with certain stories that feature any one of them.

  To believe in someone, real or fictional, we simply imagine or perceive some value from them. We like them, or don't like them, but we recognize them when we see them. I believe in my wife because she's an awesome woman who is both tough as nails and gentle as silk. I believe in Jesus because whether or not he ever walked around Judaea 2000 years ago, the archetype of a selfless, egalitarian, reciprocal, charismatic hero is something I really do appreciate.

  In reality, I'm not really moved by a cosmic guilt trip, nor do I believe the world was ever a nice place or supposed to be nice. That's what religions like JWs teach: They teach that the world was at one time nice and supposed to be nice, but now it is not by fault of our ancestor. If we submit, the world will get nice again and we'll get to see it. Thus a demand is created for a religious product, and people buy it because positive emotions and fear mongering are powerful motivation.

  No matter how you swing it, myth is myth and that's what it's good at.

  Oh, and for the same reason, it always bugs me when people say that Jesus referenced Adam and Noah and therefore those were real people... Remember that time Peter Parker had to get the medicine back to Aunt May as she lay dying in a hospital bed and he had to fight off Doc Ock's henchmen? Remember that? Say, I am a real person referencing an old story, therefore it must have happened.

  Get it?

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  Saltbaehovah Be Like...

  by freemindfade in

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  Those daughters obviously had issues after he offered them up for gang rape.
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  If turned off by the GB's latest bloopers- do you still have faith in God and Christ?

  by the-Question in

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  some go back to churchianity!.

  and that, to me, indicates they never had real faith in god- but it was in men.....

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  There sure are a lot of these threads lately.
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  A question for those who still go to the meetings

  by no-zombie in

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  and it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.

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  I loved it when it was a really really tiny congregation and EVERYBODY sat in the back. Always expected the brothers to yell. :P
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  BETH-SHAN: Images of Rutherford's Bomb Shelter

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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  for any who are interested, rutherford's infamous bomb shelter at "beth-shan" has been officially documented by the city of san diego historical resource board.

  they have photographs, plans, and an interview with the couple who built their home on the land (5330 le barron rd).

  a pdf of the full report can be found here:.

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  Wonder if there's a "safe room" at Warwick for the Governing Body.
  

  Is there toxic waste seeping in, too?
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  So, I watched "The Founder" today, and had a minor Revelation

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  in the movie's story, ray kroc, the man who is in charge of franchising mcdonalds restaurants, is finding himself in a situation where he is doing gangbusters at creating the stores, but is going broke on his contract.

  he gets help from another fast food executive who examines his books.one aspect of the business jumps out.

  the stores need land to operate on, and that money is going to the land-owners who lease the land to the stores.

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  Yep, I've made this observation as well. Hilarious, isn't it?
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  Like Mom and Dad?

  by compound complex in

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  apart from the obvious -- "you have your mother's nose" and "you got dad's cleft chin" -- do you see any of your parent's behavioral traits and attitudes in yourself?

  likewise, do you observe how your own children are 'apples fallen not far from the tree'?

  the good, the bad, and the ugly?.

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  I look like my father. My mother and I spread his ashes over a small pond some years ago. Upon reflection, I don't know if I've ever entirely thought like him.
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  Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson

  by azor in

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  listening to 2 of my current favorite thinkers debate/discussion.

  i've been looking forward to this since i found out about it a month ago.

  hope some of you get a chance to listen.

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  Does anyone else think it strange that JWs never seem to do any public debates for their beliefs? I mean they even recognize that C.T. Russell engaged in such debates on Bible subjects and that those debates helped to publicize the "Truth." So why don't they do any today defending old-earth creationism, or their own interpretation of the Bible?
  

  They'd get destroyed. Plus, I think that if they debated another religious quack like Eric Hovind or Ken Ham on matters of creationism, it would be tedious for anyone outside their spheres of influence.

  I am sure he wouldn't do it now after his stroke, but I would have paid money and flown out to see any of the GB debate Dawkins. That would have been such an ass-kicking that they might have deemed it the Great Tribulation. Aron-Ra? Dillahunty?

  Hell, get Bart Ehrman in there. Don't even dress it up as a debate at first, just put him on JW Broadcast and let the discussion commence.