As my brother said recently, "I really think a lot of us are going to eat crow in the new system when those new scrolls are opened up." Thus, this wouldn't matter.
It's terrible.
schnell
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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"
by smiddy inthat admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?
" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".
have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.
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Anyone else a fan of Red Letter Media?
by schnell inprobably my favorite band of cinephile miscreants on youtube is red letter media, which has, among other things, a series called "best of the worst".
they have a sub-series of that called "wheel of the worst," where a bunch of crappy old vhs tapes, either sent in from fans or added by the guys, are stuck to a plywood wheel and 3 of them are randomly selected for forced viewing.
here's the thing.
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schnell
Probably my favorite band of cinephile miscreants on YouTube is Red Letter Media, which has, among other things, a series called "Best of the Worst".
They have a sub-series of that called "Wheel of the Worst," where a bunch of crappy old VHS tapes, either sent in from fans or added by the guys, are stuck to a plywood wheel and 3 of them are randomly selected for forced viewing.
Here's the thing. They had an episode a while back with a catchy little tape called "SOS."
It turned out that SOS was a product of the Children of God cult. But it also involved barcodes as the mark of the beast! Whaaaat?!
Eventually, Wheel of the Worst #11 came around. And in #11, they pick a video expounding on that whole idea about UPCs and the mark of the beast... But something else was submitted for that episode too. Skip to 5:40.
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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My mom spoke of her dad's experience as a Freemason for years, and how she once read his big blue Bible and found the name Jehovah in it. It would probably break her heart if she saw that jwfacts video. -
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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schnell
I was a born in. My step-grandmother (yes, I have one of those) has a story that when I was a toddler, I said how I loved Jehovah and "He's my father's God."
Looking back, it's easy to psychoanalyze and see that at some level of consciousness, my impression of God WAS my biological father, this woman's step-son.
But my dad? He was raised around the truth and had "anointed" heritage on his mother's side. (The story goes that the territory in Paris, Texas was fostered by my great grandmother and her father. It's a nice story.) Dad's father was a convert who allegedly killed a cop at some point and ran to California from Iowa. He was a drunkard, and there was an occasion when my dad and uncle beat the shit out of him after he quite LITERALLY beat my grandmother until she crapped the bed. Dad went off into the Navy, and the story goes that he read the Truth book in one night on the USS Perkins. When he first met my mom, his high school girlfriend had broken up with him. Mom has her own story.
So what was my dad's impression of God? Maybe it was the father he didn't have.
He could have just waited and not married my mom. I wouldn't have been born, but he could have just been a bit more skeptical. Regardless, I'm here, and you could say that I, a brand spanking new apostate, owe my very life to the Watchtower.
*shudder*
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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....
by tor1500 ini went to my midweek meeting this week.
very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".
there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.
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schnell
Nobody? Okay. I'll just assume the answer is, "When their bowels decided so..."
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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....
by tor1500 ini went to my midweek meeting this week.
very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".
there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.
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schnell
So when did the 7 times and 2520 years come in? I know it's desperately prooftexted BS, but it had to come in some time.
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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....
by tor1500 ini went to my midweek meeting this week.
very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".
there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.
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schnell
Fascinating. I haven't even looked into that book and haven't gone with my wife to the meeting.
Maybe I just can't get past the title.
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Your current thoughts regarding the holidays?
by HereIgo indue to the holidays fast approaching, i was curious about your thoughts and plans for the holidays.
i have been celebrating them now for the past couple of years and ill be honest it still feels weird to celebrate, mainly christmas and halloween.
thanksgiving seems normal because growing up as a jw we always celebrated it anyway (well the day after, but that's another thread) anyway, has it become the norm for you to celebrate now or are you used to not celebrating?.
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schnell
My thoughts on the holidays changed when I looked at Mother's Day in the USA and realized it isn't anything like what this cult claims it to be. It's just a Hallmark holiday. The lady who started it in the USA just wanted you to spend it with your mother and outright opposed its commercialization.
One flaw in the argument brings all the others to light.
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So I just watched Jackson's ARC interview...
by schnell inthank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this.
no, no i had not heard of this.
child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations i've attended in the last decade.
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schnell
If you don't mind me saying so, holy shit Listener!
I uploaded the PDF court document with Losch's signature to my Google Drive. I am never deleting it.
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So I just watched Jackson's ARC interview...
by schnell inthank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this.
no, no i had not heard of this.
child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations i've attended in the last decade.
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Thank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this. No, no I had NOT heard of this. Child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations I've attended in the last decade. As a matter of fact, when a certain case in the USA made the press, I was distressed enough to call up a special pioneer about it and ask what he thought. He then assured me that this is the truth anyway, that cases like that aren't the norm and are being handled, etc. etc.
What the hell, Jackson? What the hell?
He rambles... So often. He dodges every question that he can. He cannot let his yes mean yes and his no mean no, he goes far in excess of that.
Responding to Mister Stewart's line of questioning about a fading individual who is at home when some elders come to his door and find him, for example, celebrating Christmas, Jackson can't seem to see through the specific example of Christmas until Mister Stewart explains that it's an example. The point isn't Christmas, the point is that the individual has faded because of the disfellowshipping arrangement.
Every relatively low-ranking elder would (I should hope) know the answers to all of these questions. They would not (I should hope) dodge them by saying it isn't their field. Deference will only get you so far, and none of these questions were particularly esoteric.
My dad would be yelling the answers at the screen if he saw this. *sigh* I should hope.
And the rambling! Oh god, answer the question you politicking bastard.
I guess I'm not surprised when he stops the discussion to "give a witness" and promote the organization, but really? Do you have to? Do you really think somebody there in that room is going to convert?
And he was baptized at 13, eh? He sees nothing wrong with that at all and nothing wrong with kids getting baptized for the rest of their lives under threat of disfellowshipping?
The length and sheer number of these videos is a bit of an obstacle to overcome, but this was outrageous.
It IS your field. You cannot just claim ignorance.
I'm done. I was done before but the more I see here, I am just so unbelievably done....