Posts by schnell

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Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

by JW_Rogue in

this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

schnell

@Diogenesister, we had a few layers of emotional extortion.

We could've just eloped and got married in court. But she didn't want to elope, her parents didn't want a court wedding, and I would've "lost privileges... to protect the congregation".

We could've just dated like normal adults. But that's worldly. -_-

She could've rushed through her study and baptism, but she didn't want to rush because she loved what she was learning and wanted this to be the truth.

I didn't want to push her to get baptized, but I admit, it was incredibly frustrating and I broke a couple times. I could've given up on her, indeed I DID give up on her for a while, and indeed an elder told me he would if he were in my shoes, but I loved her. I still love her.

Finally, after years of this, she got baptized and months later we got married! In the kingdom hall! Yay!

And then her sister got married in court and her folks were cool with it, and I was like WTF! ! !

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Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

by JW_Rogue in

this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

schnell

One more reason I don't want to raise kids at the hall.

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Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

by JW_Rogue in

this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

schnell

If you don't mind a tangent, I fell in love with my wife years before she was baptized. We dated, it was awesome, and then the elders found out. I got to hear the "definition of dating", "She's still outside the truth even if she was born in", etc. We had to break up, and we saw each other on and off. So much of our lives has been affected by this ridiculous self-appointed ecclesiocracy.

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Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

by JW_Rogue in

this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

schnell

Why limit it to married and not single brothers? Why only brothers? I've seen this flirt accusation thrown around to people of all sorts.

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The Q Gospel

by schnell in

so, i'm reading "the lost gospel: the book of q and christian origins" on scribd.

check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254.

if you're not aware (i'm just learning about this), the q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story.

schnell

I agree completely, Phizzy. And so much of our JW dogma comes from those fake books, like Acts and the Pastoral letters and Revelation. Ugh. The view on blood transfusions, for instance, is even more untenable when you know Acts 15 is part of a second century forgery.

I gotta say, I don't get the same encouragement from reading the Bible anymore. Just as with Jesus, if you strip away the mythology and divinity, you find a minority of good advice, and everything else is really flawed and really terrible.

I could picture an old man telling me the things written in Proverbs, and I imagine just stopping him from time to time so I can disagree. Sure, stay away from thugs and hoes. But don't be afraid to think for yourself or so dependent on others to do the thinking for you! That's terrible!

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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

by Iamallcool in

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i am no fan of donald trump at all.

i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

schnell

Kraft American cheese is just the worst.

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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

by Iamallcool in

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friends

i am no fan of donald trump at all.

i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

schnell

https://youtu.be/0GN0rNzojTY

Title says it all.

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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

by Iamallcool in

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friends

i am no fan of donald trump at all.

i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

schnell

So, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar. One ducked.

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The Academy of Ideas - "Brainwashing"

by schnell in

https://youtu.be/8ish2un-b-s. the academy of ideas has got to be one of my favorite youtube channels, and due to his subject matter, he doesn't get a whole lot of views.

but do give his playlists a watch.

above, his video on brainwashing is clearly relevant to this forum about jehovah's witnesses.

schnell

https://youtu.be/8isH2un-B-s

The Academy of Ideas has got to be one of my favorite YouTube channels, and due to his subject matter, he doesn't get a whole lot of views. But do give his playlists a watch.

Above, his video on brainwashing is clearly relevant to this forum about Jehovah's Witnesses. John Wesley and Pavlov's dog both come up.

Another very relevant video is "Neitzsche and the True World", a lecture that discusses belief in a spirit realm/afterlife as well as philosophies of history called "temporal true world theories", which JWs should find very, very familiar.

https://youtu.be/AO1igh1bQEY

And I wouldn't leave you hanging there. Clearly the subject of that video involves nihilism. I'm not a religious person -- I am thoroughly done with the religion of my upbringing -- but neither am I nihilistic. Why not? Because I appreciate the positive thinking and overall philosophy of Stoicism, and even more personally, the Hero's Journey of Joseph Campbell makes a whole lot of inspirational sense to me. Your journey, however, begins with you.

https://youtu.be/-_nLCZ3LKus

Stoicism: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAYxecbGotUxSZhQ-Gte_UAMs1RQAckSv

Enjoy, everybody.

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The Q Gospel

by schnell in

so, i'm reading "the lost gospel: the book of q and christian origins" on scribd.

check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254.

if you're not aware (i'm just learning about this), the q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story.

schnell

Another thing that gets me, and I'm by no means the first to notice. The Lord's Prayer contains "As above, so below." And that's pretty weird.

Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.