It is truly amazing how blind someone can be to what's going on. Also, the comments have not been ridiculous, though ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
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schnell
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They Offered Their Son Willingly—To Bethelite Brothers
by betterdaze inthey offered themselves willingly—in new yorkricky, a construction project manager in hawaii, was invited to serve as a commuter bethelite to assist with the warwick project.
his wife, kendra, wanted him to accept the invitation.
however, they had a legitimate concern: the welfare of their 11-year-old son, jacob.
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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what is truth?
Hey there, Pontius, wash your mouth out after your hands. 😉
Yes, and to add to your list, mathematicians talk about proof. That's another word that JWs and Bible literalists seem to not understand. Their proof is most often circular reasoning and the logical fallacy that if someone said so then it must be true.
Truth to me is a theory that gives consistent results. I can trust that if I lean up against a giant redwood, it won't fall down. I can trust that if I ignore a mechanical problem, it will not go away. I can trust that if I have 2 of something and you give me 3 more, I will then have 5 of something. I can also trust that if the laws of physics changed at some point in the last 6000 years so as to compromise radiometric dating, then there must be very good physical and mathematical evidence of it.
Hell, I can even trust that if I am only a brain in a vat being fed a simulation of a world around me, that it doesn't matter because this might as well be the real thing. For all intents and purposes and due to consistent results, it is the real thing. If I had a cat, she could view me as a slave and have a whole mythological perception in her head about her little world, too, but I'd still be the one holding her food.
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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?
by Formerbrother inis there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?
if they are not jws then who are they?.
who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.
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In my opinion, the whole "where else to go?" question actually results from a lack of understanding of christianity.
I agree. This is why I love people like Bart Ehrman. His books have been a real eye opener for me about the development of Christianity.
Ken "You Weren't There" Ham has shown me how similar JW arguments about the natural world have been to the young earth creationism they claim to disavow.
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Has the rebranding worked?
by MrTheocratic init's been several years since the start of the rebranding of jehovahs witnesses.
i believe it started with the website change.
ever since then the religion has moved in a more modern direction.
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Doc, oh god, that pig, I just saw that first Black Mirror episode and it's too soon lol
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Hey, remember when Family Guy had a Watchtower?
by schnell inhey, remember that one time on family guy when the evil monkey in chris's closet became a jw?.
i remember thinking, pssht, they'd never do that.. hey, remember when they did it?.
i am dying to know if someone awake at bethel in the art department or whatever saw that episode and recommended this cover a few years ago.
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The Weezer album death to false metal is super funny. I would sure love to hear the story behind it. The funny part is I bet 98 percent of the public doesn't get it.
That is hilarious!
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Mandatory Reporting Laws in Canada - Child Abuse
by OrphanCrow inthe issue of whether or not the elders have a duty to report is clear cut in canada.
this will make it impossible for the wts to wriggle out of the wrongs that have been exposed in quebec recently.
the elders in those situations have received their instructions from the wts lawyers and they have been advised wrongly.. for several years (can't remember when this was made law...years back), it has been mandatory for everyone in canada to report suspected cases of child abuse, which, naturally, include the sexual abuse of minors.
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An elder in my congregation tried to put me at ease. He relayed through my mother that in a previous congregation, he and the body of elders reported a case of child molestation, and thus felt vindicated in Watchtower's protection of children.
That previous congregation is in Oregon. They were mandated to report this. Not all states have such a mandate, which means that JW offenders can cross borders and offend again.
And to the apologists who say that this is what Jackson asked for and that it would be great for the brothers to be required to report: Would that negate decades of neglect? Does a good tree produce rotten fruit?
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Hey, remember when Family Guy had a Watchtower?
by schnell inhey, remember that one time on family guy when the evil monkey in chris's closet became a jw?.
i remember thinking, pssht, they'd never do that.. hey, remember when they did it?.
i am dying to know if someone awake at bethel in the art department or whatever saw that episode and recommended this cover a few years ago.
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Hey, remember that one time on Family Guy when the evil monkey in Chris's closet became a JW?
I remember thinking, pssht, they'd never do that.
Hey, remember when they did it?
I am dying to know if someone awake at Bethel in the art department or whatever saw that episode and recommended this cover a few years ago. Or was it just independent, tragic, embarrassing coincidence?
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They Offered Their Son Willingly—To Bethelite Brothers
by betterdaze inthey offered themselves willingly—in new yorkricky, a construction project manager in hawaii, was invited to serve as a commuter bethelite to assist with the warwick project.
his wife, kendra, wanted him to accept the invitation.
however, they had a legitimate concern: the welfare of their 11-year-old son, jacob.
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Welp, reading the Bible is a common step to leaving the WTS. Cheers, kid. 🍻 -
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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Terminology is very important in establishing and maintaining a cult or a cult following.
Any computer programmer could point to Richard M. Stallman and the FSF and observe the same thing.
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To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation
by schnell inthanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.
that's awesome.
no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.
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I'll take you up on that suggestion, Bonnie_Clyde! Thank you. And thank you sp74bb and everyone else too.