Posts by schnell

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"Just have faith in Jehovah..."

by evilApostate in

i recently spoke to an old friend of mine who is still under the clutches of the watchtower.

a while back, i had told him about all the child sex abuse coverups, false prophecies, false doctrines etc.

he was really shocked and surprised.

schnell

Does a god who demands or rewards credulity deserve worship?

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Nic's Alternative Xmas Message.

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

i've done a few of these over the years but this time it's very simple.. beware jc, the bearded man who promises salvation and raises the hopes of many.

read his words of division if you're ever tempted to join his followers, or just ignore him and enjoy your life.

happy holidays everyone!

schnell

Can I just say how happy I am this holiday?

My lovely wife told me after work last night how she told a customer "Merry Christmas" and the customer was shocked that she hadn't said "Happy Holidays" and she was very confused... And I just smiled as she told me this story. My wife told her customers "Merry Christmas." So, yeah. Things are gonna be alright. :)

Merry Christmas, everybody.

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Are witnesses even trying anymore?

by megaboy in

havent had an encounter with a witness in a while, almost 10 years, though at this point i could run circles around them in the scriptures, this encounter was very strange.

was eating with my son at a coffee shop, guy comes up using it as an opening.

i'm use to this because people find my son beautiful so i was open to him.

schnell

@Donny, at the end, I endorsed the idea that I wasn't looking for debate but for the predisposed. This lack of epistemology and discourse nagged at my intellectual honesty just long enough.

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Are witnesses even trying anymore?

by megaboy in

havent had an encounter with a witness in a while, almost 10 years, though at this point i could run circles around them in the scriptures, this encounter was very strange.

was eating with my son at a coffee shop, guy comes up using it as an opening.

i'm use to this because people find my son beautiful so i was open to him.

schnell

The size of the tract doesn't matter. Just the teaching of the good news. And the invitation to go to the Kingdom Hall.

Was megaboy taught anything about the good news? If he was invited to the hall in any way, was the invitation that appealing?

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Writers (not God) are at fault

by anointed1 in

if scriptures are written by people who have no sense of justice, it is natural that god would be misrepresented—something that happened to the biblical god.

to mention a few:.

1) david, murderer of the innocent and faithful, wrote portions of the bible.. 2) paul who set in opposition to genuine apostles who were directly trained by jesus himself sarcastically describing them as “superfine apostles” openly declared in some places that it was not spirit, but he was writing.

schnell

if it makes you happy.

Forgive me, but while a person may believe whatever they want, that does not necessarily make it okay. A belief may be horrific, in which case we can agree that it's not okay, or a belief can be nonsense, which is less sinister but can spell problems for both this person and others as well. Those problems can even be deadly, or costly, as in the case of parents who don't get their toddlers vaccinated.

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Quotation in book - what are your thoughts

by Tallon in

been away for a couple of months as i felt that i needed a break.

during this period i completed reading a book (fiction), titled; conclave - authored by robert harris.

there is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking.

schnell

I could choose to live in a tiny house with a 1964 Volkswagen and a garden that grows all the food I ever eat.

I could make everyone in the world live in tiny houses with 1964 Volkswagens and maintain a garden with all the food they can ever eat.

I happen to choose neither, but there is a clear difference between them.

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Writers (not God) are at fault

by anointed1 in

if scriptures are written by people who have no sense of justice, it is natural that god would be misrepresented—something that happened to the biblical god.

to mention a few:.

1) david, murderer of the innocent and faithful, wrote portions of the bible.. 2) paul who set in opposition to genuine apostles who were directly trained by jesus himself sarcastically describing them as “superfine apostles” openly declared in some places that it was not spirit, but he was writing.

schnell

1) The incomprehensibly vast size of the universe teaches how insignificant our earth and all its inhabitants are (which means there is no basis for anyone to feel self-important)

I do marvel at the immensity of the universe and at our own importance or lack thereof. However, be sure not to focus so much on humility to the detriment of pride. Pride is important, because it is connected with honor and shame. If you can take away someone's pride, you can also take away their honor, and their shame.

2) The way planets and stars act too teaches us humility! They move around keeping to their orbits just like vehicles follow lane-discipline on a busy express highway (as though submitting themselves to some unseen authority).

Go with the flow. It's called gravity and has nothing to do with humility or submission. You do not submit to gravity anymore than you could choose to defy it.

3) Plants produce fragrant and beautiful flowers and trees produce fruits for others to enjoy (not for themselves). They too are living lessons of humility.

Yes they do produce those flowers for themselves. Flowers, seeds, buds, and symbiosis with bees are means of reproduction.

4) All the stories and histories written show that those who pursued self-importance reaped misery in the end. [shows that all the writers are somehow led by some imperceptible force to come to the same conclusion that ultimately truth wins and ego fails]

No they do not all show this. Assholes don't always lose, and Habbakuk observed as much. Or don't you watch cable news?

You really do seem overly focused on humility. Why so?

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Is it just for social reasons you remain?

by UnshackleTheChains in

as someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!

why is this the case you may ask?.

if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.

schnell

Believing in God and believing every word from the Borg are not at all the same. Swing and a miss.

However, I will corroborate that many do believe every word from the Borg. (They have to, or they'll lose all their loving friends and family.) Even if they don't believe every word, many still believe it is still generally true and that Jehovah will be vindicated in the end even if his mouthpiece has misspoken... It's like Stockholm Syndrome.

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Shunning

by A Believer in

you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

i know people who have done exactly this.

you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

schnell

Yeah, no, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 kthx.

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Shunning

by A Believer in

you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

i know people who have done exactly this.

you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

schnell

You guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

*said to a community of faded, disassociated, disfellowshipped, inactive and awake JWs, many of whom have been out for years or decades*

Your tone seems a bit braver and bolder, Believer, even in the face of that lie you told about only going to meetings for a few weeks. You drinking? If you are, happy holidays. :)