my husband and i recently moved back to our hometown so we are back on the radar for the elders.
we have been happily inactive the last few years.
the other day a brother, who was once friends with my husband, and a substitute circuit overseer stopped in my husband's work for a shepherding visit if they still call it that.
Your husband will have to make that call, but I agree with scratchme1010. We have to make the line clear. Maybe your husband didn't feel like being rude to his old friend and the CO, but sometimes that is necessary too.
I work with dubs. I haven't been preached to yet, though I have been asked if I'm alright and invited to "talk". Ya know, because I have a beard so I must be discouraged. >_>
no other individual has been responsible for creating such a large number of none believers.
people may change faith but they still believe in god but when "most" leave jw's, oh boy they become down right disrespectful of jehovah...so a great game plan by satan, he's a tricky devil.
to be known as the number one religion that turn folks away from god, that is saying something about your faith.....lol.
That was pretty unreal. Apparently, evolution by natural selection isn't sufficient to account for human complexity and consciousness, and thus directed evolution was necessary, and thus we were basically created by aliens... Which may have been evolved.
And what's more, human activity and natural processes aren't sufficient for climate change, so the aliens are behind that too. (God? Or Ming the Merciless?)
The important question, of course, was why this one young woman believes this. And she talked about a near death experience where her car should have flipped but didn't, etc. This experience opened her up to this aliens nonsense, which she asserted without really thinking it through. But that near death experience is the important thing. She just wanted an explanation, a higher reason.
(Edit: Pushed Submit prematurely. Meh.)
i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
I consider "within the twentieth century" such a prediction as well, though it was edited in later additions to hide that.
no other individual has been responsible for creating such a large number of none believers.
people may change faith but they still believe in god but when "most" leave jw's, oh boy they become down right disrespectful of jehovah...so a great game plan by satan, he's a tricky devil.
to be known as the number one religion that turn folks away from god, that is saying something about your faith.....lol.
Ah. Yeah, I've had that observation myself. Sometimes it's actually "nice", if you'll allow me, like after I've been in a days-long Twitter debate with Ancient Aliens believers.
no other individual has been responsible for creating such a large number of none believers.
people may change faith but they still believe in god but when "most" leave jw's, oh boy they become down right disrespectful of jehovah...so a great game plan by satan, he's a tricky devil.
to be known as the number one religion that turn folks away from god, that is saying something about your faith.....lol.
no other individual has been responsible for creating such a large number of none believers.
people may change faith but they still believe in god but when "most" leave jw's, oh boy they become down right disrespectful of jehovah...so a great game plan by satan, he's a tricky devil.
to be known as the number one religion that turn folks away from god, that is saying something about your faith.....lol.
#1? Really?
I can't speak for everyone else, and it's clear that not every ex-JW becomes an atheist. It certainly doesn't help to have had the Bible rubbed in my face all my life, but some see through it regardless. In point of fact, I did try to observe the meetings with a loose, liberal, metaphorical understanding of Christian doctrine. I found it impossible in that setting, though the Unitarian Universalists seem to accept atheism and metaphorical understanding just fine.
I'm atheist because I have looked at where these beliefs come from, how we evolved, and how they evolved right along with us. It's theology and anthropology. So, humanism, really.
I respect another person's right to fantastical beliefs, and I acknowledge the role of religion in politics. It's not going away anytime soon. This is why I have come to prefer street epistemology and the Socratic method rather than blunt, aggressive assertion.
But I am curious. Who says that Jehovah's witnesses produce more atheists than any other religion or sect?
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if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.
taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.
And wouldn't they all see through it? How do you fake it with an omniscient god?
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if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.
taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.
i was brainwashed to believe you generally shouldn't relax much.. demons can enter you if you meditate or even relax your brain too much for one second.
always be on guard.. scriptures criticizing laziness were repeated often.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/laziness "be kind to yourself" and all that.. you need to strenuously exert yourself for jehoopla and you're worthless if you don't.. most forms of fun were extinguished.
I admit that every hobby or artistic endeavor was poisoned by scripture and guilt as well, though this is not unique to JWs. "Religion poisons everything," as Hitchens said.
so i had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course i explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone i'm not.
her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice".
i tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no.
She has a career to defend. Telling people to leave a cult because it is causing them harm puts her at risk from its adherents, leaders, lawyers, and possibly - for all she knows - even you.
So, lifestyle choice. Take it as a codeword if you must.
