Posts by seedy3

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Bible Character Quiz

by JH in

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if you flunk, back to the hall you go.....

Anointed Class? What Anointed Class?

by never_a_jw in

please, take the time to read this:.

the wts teaches that only the anointed 144,000 seen in revelation 7 will enter heaven (the "anointed class"), while the remainder that are not annihilated (the "other sheep") will live forever on earth in paradise.

however, the bible poses some irreconcilable difficulties with this idea.

seedy3

Hey folks, Just my $.02 worth,

I noticed A&F's quote of scripture:

2 TIMOTHY 3:16:" All Scripture is inspired from God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,"NWT
2 TIMOTHY 3:17:" that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."NWT

I always get a kick out of the Christian application of these 2 scriptures as well as the one in Revelations that says "Not to add or take away"

Gumby was quite right in his statement that that reference had to have only been to the Old Testement, because there was no New Testement when it was written in the letter. There was no decision and no one knew what would be in the NT until somewhere in the thrid and fourth centuries. And the reference in Rev. could have only applied to that book it's self and no other due to the same reason.

As far as Russell being a Jew, if he were a Jew he hid it quite well. And also if he were a Jew he was only in race and not Religion. I have seen references that try and say he was a jew but they have little concrete evidence, and the only evidence used to say he was a Mason, are the qoutes that he himself made at an assembly saying we are all masons, but later in the speach he made the statement that he was not a member of the mason soceity, but had faith like the masons, and we all should have that same faith.

If there is more evidence to that I would love to see it.

Seedy

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Looking for N Calif Relitives

by seedy3 in

well this is my first post in quite a few months, i've kind of taken a break for a while, but none the less i am not lost lol.. anyhow i was just thinking about my cousins that i have not seen in many many years.

when we were kids we were pretty tight, but after i moved to mn in the mid 70's i lost all contact with them.

but i am intersted in finding out if they are still in the borg or not, so if anyone knows please send me a message or post it here.. my uncle's name is james (jim) davis his wife was/is betty.

seedy3

BTT

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JUST WHEN ARE THE LAST DAYS SUPPOSE TO BE???

by JT in

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someone emailed me who lurks and asked if i could repost this thread from my archives-

she has issues with the bible and how it is always giving folks hope, yet never delivers- she wanted to know why has the last days been going on since- the bible was written-??

i'm just doing the lady a favor- i told her what i thought of the following repost.

seedy3

Yes I caught that right away nilfun, it does say Decendents not, Genghis himself. The Kahn's reached their peak in power and extent, not under Genghis, but under his son's and grandson's rules so putting further down the line the dates could be correct.

Seedy

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Should they use the sacred name of God? YHWH

by Sirona in

now you may think i'm a little slow to catch on here.

this morning was the first time it occurred to me that the jw's use of the tetragrammaton may actually be a huge insult to other faiths.

admittedly they use a modern day english version of the name of god - jehovah.

seedy3

Narkissos,

Here is an interesting study of the Ugarit in ancient Canaan which was a center for their worship.

http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm

Seedy

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JUST WHEN ARE THE LAST DAYS SUPPOSE TO BE???

by JT in

jw
friends

someone emailed me who lurks and asked if i could repost this thread from my archives-

she has issues with the bible and how it is always giving folks hope, yet never delivers- she wanted to know why has the last days been going on since- the bible was written-??

i'm just doing the lady a favor- i told her what i thought of the following repost.

seedy3

Many have been predicting the "End" for centuries, but during the Christian era it has been especially popular, check out this website.

http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/y2k/bible_ca.htm

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Should they use the sacred name of God? YHWH

by Sirona in

now you may think i'm a little slow to catch on here.

this morning was the first time it occurred to me that the jw's use of the tetragrammaton may actually be a huge insult to other faiths.

admittedly they use a modern day english version of the name of god - jehovah.

seedy3

Well they shouldn't feel insulted or anything else about the use of the name, it does not originate with the hebrews anyway, they stole the name from the Canaanites who had YHWH/YHVH as a lesser god to El, YHWH was the brother to Baal. He was God of the desert and war, some groups spoke of him also as the god of the mountains. He was not the Almighty, but when the hebrews had traveled in the desert for so many years, funny how the god of the desert/war took on the qualities of the Almight El of Canaanite lore.

Seedy

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Osiris-Dionysus

by yxl1 in

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just though it would be interesting to get your views on a series of events that were recorded 2,500bc.osiris-dionysus was born of a mortal virgin who after her death is honoured as a divine beingosiris-dionysus was born on either 25th december or 6th januarythe birth of osiris-dionysus is prophesised by a starosiris-dionysus turned water into wine at a weddingosiris-dionysus was surrounded by 12 disciplesosiris-dionysus rode triumphantly into town on a donkey while crowds waved branchesosiris-dionysus death and resurrection were celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine which symbolizes his body and bloodosiris-dionysus was accused of heresy and bringing a new religionfollowers of osiris-dionysus eat bread and drink wine to commune with him.osiris-dionysus was crucified on a treeosiris-dionysus died to redeem the sins of the worldosiris-dionysus corpse was wrapped in linen and anointed with myrrhosiris-dionysus is resurrected after 3 days and is witnessed by his disciples before ascending into heaventhe dates that osiris-dionysus died and ascended to heaven are exactly the same dates that are used for jesus death and ascending to heaventhree women followers visited osiris-dionysus empty tombfollowers of osiris-dionysus await his return as the judge during the last days.

yxl1

seedy3

Actually there are many parallels in the past Osris, Mythras (Roman), Mythra (Persian), Odin, Baccus, Attis, Baal, Tamuzz, Just to name a few. Most all of them have very simular occurences involved in their worship. Almost all have the Euchrist meal in one way or another, and most were all raised from the dead after three days. Some were born of virgins, some were crucified, some had 12 followers who witnessed his resurection or his afterlife, ect, ect. However the closest to the life of Jesus was Baccus, with a close second being Attis. As one website put it old parts to make a new religon.

Seedy

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Looking for N Calif Relitives

by seedy3 in

well this is my first post in quite a few months, i've kind of taken a break for a while, but none the less i am not lost lol.. anyhow i was just thinking about my cousins that i have not seen in many many years.

when we were kids we were pretty tight, but after i moved to mn in the mid 70's i lost all contact with them.

but i am intersted in finding out if they are still in the borg or not, so if anyone knows please send me a message or post it here.. my uncle's name is james (jim) davis his wife was/is betty.

seedy3

Well this is my first post in quite a few months, I've kind of taken a break for a while, but none the less I am not lost LOL.

Anyhow I was just thinking about my cousins that I have not seen in many many years. When we were kids we were pretty tight, but after I moved to MN in the mid 70's I lost all contact with them. But I am intersted in finding out if they are still in the BOrg or not, so if anyone knows please send me a message or post it here.

My Uncle's name is James (Jim) Davis his wife was/is Betty. They used to live in Happy Camp CA for many years, infact they helped start that congregation in the 60's. My cousins names are Jamie (she is married now so I don't know her last name) and Jody (I'm sure he goes by Joe now). The last time I saw them, they all lived in Yreka CA, but I know my Uncle as of 4 years ago was living in Oregon, I think Klamath Falls, but I'm not 100% about that. Joe, had moved to Oklahoma at one point but I don't know where or am I sure if he was still there. As of a few years ago I know my Uncle Jim was still a JW, but I often have wondered about Jamie and Joe. Any help you can offer would be appreaciated.

Thanks,
Seedy

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Jehovah-Jireh

by Loris in

" genesis 3:15 njb .

god had spoken; jehovah-jireh (jehovah will see to it).

" 1 kings 8:56 njb .

seedy3

Ok this is deep, I do have some comments, but my wife tells me have to get off here, so this is going on my list of replies so I can find it easy again.

Seedy