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  What happened to politeness?

  by Seeker in

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  twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.

  " in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.

  in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.

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  You were wrong for being... uh... a bit petty in taking him to task for saying that Bethel was/was not within 1/2 mile from... yadda yadda and so on and so forth. Imo, you strained the gnat and gulped the camel... or is it the other way around? Whatever... you missed his MAIN point and chose to comment on the trivial – his main point being that late last year, following 9-11, a report of a missing nuclear device landing in NYC was taken very seriously by low profile but powerful U.S. government agencies.

  Hmmm...I certainly wasn't intending to trivialize the threat, or to strain the gnat, though I can understand why it may have seemed that was my intent. I felt an important point needed to be made because You Know has constantly, and for years, tried to scare people with the "backpack nuclear" threat. What Tallyman's source pointed out, and I was trying to highlight, is that it would only flatten a 1/2-mile diameter. That's awful, to be sure, but most people are probably not aware of the dimensions of Manhattan. So to counter the fear-mongering that You Know promotes, I took the opportunity to highlight that material, and demonstrate just how limited the damage would be. Since Tallyman mentioned Brooklyn Bethel, I used his example to show how limited the blast would be. It wouldn't even knock Bethel over even though it is just across the river from downtown Manhattan.

  I suppose I should have first acknowledged Tallyman's point before engaging in my own point to counter You Know's exaggeration. But I should have realized that Tallyman's hatred of Brooklyn Bethel wouldn't like it if I didn't agree with him about Bethel being blown to smithereens. Since I disagreed with that point, I used my knowledge of the geography to set the matter straight. Was I being picky if my target had been Tallyman? Sure. But my actual target really was You Know, which is why I only named You Know in my post.

  I strive for accuracy here. I think it's important. I think it's wrong of You Know to imply NYC would be devasted by a backpack nuke. NYC managed when the WTC came down, and we would cope if a nuke went off. As awful as either event is/would be, it would not bring the city crumbling down, no matter how much You Know tries to pretend otherwise. I think it's important, not petty, to counter his fear-mongering.
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  Do you think he was innocent?

  by silentlambs in

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  http://www.gctelegram.com/news/2002/march/2/story5.html.

  man acquitted of molestation charges .

  by jaclyn o'malley.

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  Look at the child, see how it reacts to the situation, to the verdict. You can generally tell from body language or even behaviour if someone has interferred with your kid. There are the classic signs and then there are the subtle signs where you have to open your eyes and quit being so self-centred and actually take a look at your kid and focus on how they are feeling and reacting to life around them. Then you'll know whether a person is guilty or not of touching a child

  None of which was possible to do from reading that newspaper account. I agree with safe, it is more likely than not that the children were telling the truth, but as with all court cases on any subject we can't possibly know for sure unless we are in the courtroom hearing the evidence as jury. A newspaper account does not proof make.
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  What happened to politeness?

  by Seeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.

  " in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.

  in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.

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  ROFL! This thread is going to go down in my mind as true irony...
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  The Way to a Man's Heart....

  by Xena in

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  is it still through his stomach like my mom taught me?

  come on guys fess up....do you want a woman who can cook?

  personally i love cooking...something about being in a hot kitchen...kneading bread...the way it feels under your hands...then sticking it in a hot oven and watching it rise...slathering butter all over it and eating it with your fingers...uuummm is there anything better?

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  The way to a real man's heart is a bit higher than the belt line. It's through his head...and his intellect. Keep that stimulated and you never have to worry about the rest...all the other parts just join in.

  Ain't that the truth! God, all I really want is a brillant woman. Give me brilliance, and the rest is chicken feed.
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  Bush administration and the press

  by Seeker in

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  op-ed piece in the times: http://partners.nytimes.com/2002/03/02/opinion/02rich.html.

  an excerpt:.

  "the president's sentiments were no doubt sincere, as is his muscular pursuit of the killers.

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  By the way folks, let's not lose sight of the topic of this thread. It isn't conservative versus liberal, or my discussion of, IMO, the increasing corporate conservatism of the press. No, this thread began about a discussion of a reporter who had a U.S. military officer put a gun to his head and told not to investigate any further.

  This thread is about the threat to a free press, and the Bush administration hostility toward it.
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  Bush administration and the press

  by Seeker in

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  op-ed piece in the times: http://partners.nytimes.com/2002/03/02/opinion/02rich.html.

  an excerpt:.

  "the president's sentiments were no doubt sincere, as is his muscular pursuit of the killers.

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  Calling me an idiot (by implication) is worse than being called a liberal. Neither is true, so neither would hurt my feelings, but I'm glad you are now choosing to add something to the discussion instead of just insults.

  I don't recall Krugman's perspective, though I suppose he's liberal. Nevertheless, I'm not interested so much in the Op Ed pieces which are supposed to be opinions. I will say I've noticed their Op Ed pieces on globalization are very pro-corporate, no matter who writes them, even the liberals. But again, I'm not talking about opinion pieces, but news reporting.

  Give me some specifics of anti-corporate news pieces from the Times. By anti-corporate, I mean not the usual conservative party line that corporations, even when they make mistakes, are basically trying. And I don't mean corporations that screw up so badly the conservatives throw them overboard and then it's suddently fair game to pick on them, such as Enron currently.

  This is the trend I'm talking about, and even the grey old lady herself has fallen prey to the creeping corporatism that trends toward conservatism. Not in the political sense, but in the word sense.
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  Bush administration and the press

  by Seeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  op-ed piece in the times: http://partners.nytimes.com/2002/03/02/opinion/02rich.html.

  an excerpt:.

  "the president's sentiments were no doubt sincere, as is his muscular pursuit of the killers.

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  Examine your words again. It was an insult, no matter what mood anyone is in.
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  Bush administration and the press

  by Seeker in

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  2. friends

  op-ed piece in the times: http://partners.nytimes.com/2002/03/02/opinion/02rich.html.

  an excerpt:.

  "the president's sentiments were no doubt sincere, as is his muscular pursuit of the killers.

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  I do see liberal bias in the Times on occasion, and I see conservative bias at times, but mostly I see corporate bias most of the time, and that's primarily what I'm talking about. Now you, Pork Chop, have often spoken from a conservative perspective, so perhaps you see liberalism everywhere. I have noticed that people who espouse one side tend to complain about seeing the other side everywhere. But next time it might be better to provide specific examples of your point of view, instead of just making a hit-and-run insult as you did this time.
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  What happened to politeness?

  by Seeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.

  " in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.

  in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.

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  Seeker

  Marvin,

  I did indeed have lots of threads with Friend in the past, but am I the Seeker you are thinking of? I don't know. There was Seeker4 as well, and he may have spoken with Friend quite a bit too. Can you be a bit more specific, or shall I just email you?
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  The Way to a Man's Heart....

  by Xena in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it still through his stomach like my mom taught me?

  come on guys fess up....do you want a woman who can cook?

  personally i love cooking...something about being in a hot kitchen...kneading bread...the way it feels under your hands...then sticking it in a hot oven and watching it rise...slathering butter all over it and eating it with your fingers...uuummm is there anything better?

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  It's a plus, but not a requirement. I cook fairly well, and will take over if it's necessary. But I'm also delighted by an innovative meal.