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  Juts for fun: Stupid reasons why you WON'T leave the JWs

  by outofthebox in

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  here is mine: .

  i have to much money invested in ties and suits, i can't leave!!

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  I'd miss the bean burritos at the District Convention.
  
  Oh, wait. They don't serve those anymore.
  
  Must be another good reason to stay.....
  
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  this sucks

  by Troggle in

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  last night at work (i work as a mananger for a fast food reasturant).

  one of my employees came through the drive through.

  he told me he had taken a drug test for a job at a warehouse where one of the brothers from my old kh was the hiring boss.

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  I agree with Aude. This is a serious confidentiality issue. Threaten to sue his sorry ass. There was no way he should have talked like that to your employee. I would guess he's probably a typical elder - thinks he's free to say what he wants about anyone like he can in the congregation, without anyone standing up to him about it.
  
  And I can just imagine the outrageous stuff being spread around about me. My ex had it on a good source that someone had sold cocaine where I live with my girlfriend. Considering that neither of us have even had a puff on a joint since we've been together, that's kind of stupid. But, to be expected.
  
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  DC Experiences - reality vs. perception

  by sir82 in

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  at a recent dc, an elderly sister was interviewed.

  she recounted how she endured through many years of her husband's opposition, never giving up, until finally he relented.

  eventually, he bacame baptized and joined her in the full-time pioneer work.. end of experience.

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  I had lots of assembly parts that involved experiences, and rehearsed many others.
  
  There were COs and DOs who were absolutely committed to making sure that EVERYTHING in the experiences was positive. That was the overriding reason that the experiences at CA and DC are pretty much a joke even among faithful JWs.
  
  And the comment that it is often impossible to find an experience that fits what the WTS puts in the outline is absolutely true. I remember one in particular. The outline was quite specific; they wanted to use a family on the DC where the father worked, the mother was a stay at home mom who happily made do managing the household on the one income and often aux. pioneered or reg. pioneered AND they had to have exemplary teenage children who also were content with the one income while they helped mom pioneer.
  
  There was not a family in the entire DISTRICT that fit the profile!
  
  I remember one CO - Ray Hayes – who went out of his way to talk about real issues in his talks. Depression, abuse, the friends tiring out - he'd nail it all and the friends loved him for it. But I remember one talk at a CA, and he's discussing this and not glossing over things or telling the audience that "JWs are the happiest people on Earth!" Well, the DO, can't remember exactly who, but it might have been Dennis Raftopolis, was visibly disturbed by the honesty of the talk. "What is he doing? He's ruining everything!" the DO was heard to say during Ray's talk.
  
  Ray was a good guy, and could care less if they kept him in the circuit work or not. He eventually left it.
  
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  poll/ survey on what you "were" (rank in your hall)

  by burningbridges in

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  i wasjust really curious to see what the average of everyone's "history" is here, and also how many "higer ups" we have that have abandoned the ways.

  so what were you, an elder?

  a pioneer?

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  Baptized at 11, servant at 17, MS at 20 (when the elder arrangement went into effect), elder at 26 (TMS, WT conductor, Service Overseer, etc.), Assembly Overseer at 30. I had parts on every CA and DC for about 15 years or more, taught two Pioneer Schools, Pioneered or Auxied for many years from the time I was a pre-teen. Was a Special or Appeal Committee member or Chair a few times. Was Assistant District Convention Chairman for DO Paul Illingworth several times.
  
  Yeah - over-achiever. I tend to really do things with a lot of intensity - whether that's being a JW or being an ex-JW! I've given as much effort to being an "apostate" as I did to being super-elder!
  
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  Do YOU Look Like YOUR Avatar/JWD mini-pic

  by RAYZORBLADE in

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  do you look like your jwd profile pic?.

  just curious.. that stupid pic of me in a columbia rain jacket is real.

  it's 2 yrs.

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  Yeah, I look the same, except it was a few years ago. In the last year I have dropped +20 pounds, have been in an extreme exercise program so I've muscled up and slimmed down, and the biggest change you'd probably see in the avatar is that I haven't cut my hair in six months! Lori looks the same, beautiful as ever. She tells me the longer hair on me takes about 10 years off me, and the getting really fit also helps with that. Maybe she's being nice!
  
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  My first post

  by BonaFide in

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  i prayed before i came on here.

  i know that it weird.

  i have been reading here for a long time.

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  Welcome Bonafide!
  
  I did my first searches and postings from a computer at the library years ago!
  
  This can be scary at the beginning. All my friends and most of my family were in.
  
  I had trouble with the journalistic ethics of the WTS as well, and just couldn't stay there any longer. Feel free to PM me. If you'd like to talk or whatever, that can be arranged. Sometimes it's easier to get this stuff out in a conversation.
  
  Enjoy the ride!
  
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  End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?

  by insearchoftruth in

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  2. bible

  my wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.

  she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.

  has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??

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  Gas is $4 a gallon in the US and higher elsewhere. People here are worried that they won't be able to heat their houses this winter. There is war in Iran and Afghanistan. A huge earthquake just hit Chine and killed tens of thousands. In the US there is concern that we may be entering a recession, people can't give away there $40,000 SUVs, and lots of companies are downsizing and laying off workers. Starbucks just closed 600 stores.
  
  These are just the sort of incidents that get the JWs' undies in a bunch.
  
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  sex with divorcing dispouse= forgiveness, can't divorce says the lord?

  by burningbridges in

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  i heard some silly thing and did a little research on it.

  turns out, if your spouse committs adultery, you are free to remarry (we all know this one).... .

  but, did you know, that according to the watchtower, that if you, even so much as commit fornication (play with their genitals) with your spouse again before the divorce is finalized that you have thus symbolized that you have forgiven them and that you no longer have scriptural grounds to divorce them?

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  Yes, this is one of the more outrageous WTS rules - and I have also heard it is based on Old English law.
  
  I had a close friend DFed for this stupid rule.
  
  This is just another example of the WTS not trusting the rank and file. Two adults trying to work out a troubled marriage cannot be trusted to work out between themselves whether or not forgiveness will be or even can be expressed in a case of unfaithfulness. No, the WTS has got to lay an arbitrary rule on every couple in this situation.
  
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  Did you see Serena's birth control patch?

  by MsMcDucket in

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  it's on her shoulder.

  i saw it when she turned her back.

  it's a beige patch; so it really showed up on her skin.

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  I read an article on one of the girl's a few months ago - and it was quite obvious from that that these girls have live-in boy friends. So for all the talk about their god, they have to be considered nominal JWs at best.

  I wonder if they were ever baptized?

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  Lawyers at Bethel

  by nbernat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard that bethel pays for brothers' undergrad and law school expenses if they serve as lawyers, is that true?

  also, just to see the hypocrisy, would they accept someone who went to harvard law even if they weren't a regular pioneer?

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  Megadude,
  
  That's the one. Thanks.
  
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