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  Can GB be guilty of sinning against Holy Spirit

  by Chook in

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  the crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of jw children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church.

  god created family unit ,gb destroys lives on all levels of family tree.

  can this be the unforgivable sin?.

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  Splash

  everlasting cutting off, is the same as sinning against Holy Spirit according to the black book.
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  How to start....

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  i think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the w.t.

  obviously circumstances are different for each individual.. my advice is:-.

  a) fade gently but with the objective never to return.. b) my opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.. c) if you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then i would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a j.w never could.. d.) as for armeggedon, that's simply control by fear.

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  I think if it's deseased it should not be touched. Stop touching the unclean thing. But I fully understand if you use a slower strategy due to family ties. But the problem with the fade is such a loss of precious time.
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  Elder Arrest Scaremongering

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week there was a meeting with all the elders and ministerial servants about responsibility in the kingdom hall and blah blah blah.. one elder brought up a scenario where all the elders were arrested, and we were asked if the meeting would still go on, and how.. this is the second time within a month that i've heard that scenario posed by an elder in my congregation.. does anyone have any idea of the trash being fed to them in letters recently?.

  is this a scenario that hq is putting out there, or are the fear mongering convention videos driving their imaginations wild?.

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  If they hadn't changed their mind so often regarding the book of revelation and its interpretation, the original story with all the beasts and their glory could be put in JW script for their final party ,where we apostates on this forum will be bled dry by Big Tony Morris. We know WT rode the beast of the UN for ten years , wild beasts and blood sports have held the masses for centuries , so our BOYS at Brooklyn are rodeo champions ,hang on for the ride of scare mongering and fear . Mr Lett that smile as you kill those dear children in Bangladesh where there is only one brother to one million people. O I'm sure they have heard Gods name , as they bleed.
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  So How'd you like your Last Resting Place?

  by snugglebunny in

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  like this perhaps?

  it is pretty cool after all... .

  (i took both of these pics and the difference was, well, obvious!).

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  Chook

  This is my farm and I hope my last resting place.
  
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  Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

  many has shown interest in this situation.

  the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

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  You could ask them where is the signed document that I have subjected myself to your authority .
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  Publisher death nail.

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have done this exactly as quoted more than once.

  i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.

  then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.

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  Which proves no Holy Spirit involved in appointment
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  So How'd you like your Last Resting Place?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like this perhaps?

  it is pretty cool after all... .

  (i took both of these pics and the difference was, well, obvious!).

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  My dads tombstone simply say " returned to the carpenter "
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  the quote I dared the elders to put in WT mag

  by Chook in

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  2. beliefs

  i approach elders like a skilled lawyer, more than once i applied this.

  i would ask is it better to reveal a serious sin or is it better to hide.

  of course we know the answer i received.

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  I approach elders like a skilled lawyer, more than once I applied this. I would ask is it better to reveal a serious sin or is it better to hide. Of course we know the answer I received. Then I would quote their elders book page 38 paragraph 19. And proceed to reason with them that it says in elders book that if elder hid his immorality more than a few years and he had evidence of Gods blessing on his life he could hold his job as an elder.

  I had one elder tell me there was nothing in book that couldn't be in WT mag , I said bull, then I made him get it out over phone and I asked him if they would put that paragraph in WT mag there would be mutiny. I also said ,would a publisher brother be still on microphones or book counter if he hid immorality. To be honest this elder didn't even realise it was in there , I said if your worried ask your wife if it seems a two tier system. Then I would ask how do you gauge Gods blessing on his life so he can keep his job. We all know it's a BOYS club.
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  Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

  many has shown interest in this situation.

  the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

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  Tell them you will hear reports of wars do not be terrified the end is not yet.
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  The “boldness” of the GB

  by Hecce in

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  2. beliefs

  this topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.

  some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..

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  I just need to know if a hall has been dedicated to God, do the pagan purchasers of old halls receive a blessed product. I've never heard of a reverse dedication . I know when we dedicate our lives in water it's irreversible .