I'm so glad I was never a elder, now that I'm awake I would beat myself up and be forever emotionally wrecked if some poor bastard committed suicide after I DF them.
Posts by Chook
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24To all former Elders – what are your thoughts
by Tallon inif you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?
how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?
were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?
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Easier to be a JW now?
by Xanthippe inreading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.
get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.
or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.
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Chook
To be subjected to guilt riddled speeches and to conform to business dress codes is enough punishing for my soul. Non returnable time is why most won't go back ever.
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So When Do You Think The Watchtower Sign Will Come Down in Brooklyn?
by Wild_Thing ini think we should have a street party in brooklyn when it happens!
it would be a "tearing down of the berlin wall" type of celebration!
i would totally fly to new york for that!
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Chook
Yes I think it's worth a party, but the problem lies in it will rise at Warwick , at least on cows see it their.
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"God does not desire any to be destroyed "
by stuckinarut2 inso if that quote from the bible is correct, for every year that goes by another couple of million people will need to be destroyed.
it just doesn't make sense right?
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Chook
I just don't now why God wrote such a complicated story. This is movie material twisted.
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See? Being an Ex-JW Can Be Funny!
by Wild_Thing ini have to find recordings of this comedian!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ex-jehovahs-witness-deborah-frances-white-on-door-knocking-with/.
ex-jehovah's witness deborah frances-white on door knocking with michael jackson and ditching the 'cult'.
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Chook
Being an xjw puts us in a league few have traveled, theirs the guilt ridden thoughts of wasted time, then it's the damage we have caused others due to following false prophets. The I'm such a fool thoughts damage the xjw .Eventually we have to look only forward and it's then we heal and find happiness .
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Whats the problem?
by eyeuse2badub inlike the noah of old, (as described in the bible), are modern day jw’s just poor teachers?
i mean, noah, and i assume his family, preached for decades prior to the “deluge”.
they were “clearly” or “evidently” poor at convincing their contemporaries that a ‘flood’ was a comin’.
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Chook
The problem with JW headquarters is they can't start again, so they are chained to a history of bullshit that if they did it again they probably wouldn't do certain things because it affects the MONEY flow.1 blood which they can't change due to too many deaths, 2 1914 they just put it in print to much so they can't change because the rank and file would realise God didn't change his mind. 3 Education so the money would flow more freely. 4 the no children policy which hindered increase.
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Identifying warning signs of a cult
by stuckinarut2 inmany here will have read lists like this before and realised that most of these points fit the society to a tee!.
but for any new members or lurkers, check out this site!.
https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html.
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Chook
It's the same old story if someone offers you something to good to be true, it's probably false.
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I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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Chook
You could ask any who say they have faith that the real measurement for faith is we all line up at the ocean shore and see who can walk the out on the water the longest distance. I have faith my balls will be wet.
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ACTIVISM strategies
by TerryWalstrom inwith the proliferation of social media, more people have been reached by the watchtower organization than ever before in history.
it sure took them long enough!.
at the same time, anti-jw activism has caught fire to counterbalance the propaganda.. there are all sorts of activists operating "out there" using books, videos, podcasts, facebook, and incidental un-witnessing to puncture and perforate the false message and counterfeit codswallop of the governing body.. __________.
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Chook
Terry
I love how you draw them in ,using their own strategies ,brilliant . I live in town where there is an assembly hall and on weekends McDonald's get a lot of JW visitors . The coffee might not be as good as Starbucks but if you were there I think a massive cult healing could take place or at least some provocative thought process could take place. I have family in and I haven't been nailed to the stake yet, but I know it's only a matter of time due to my strong convictions.
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Chook
I thought of putting up a sign"apostate residence".