I was lucky , I was in 27 years and I failed to convert anyone not even my two children. I'm glad my Jw sales never worked , I wouldn't seriously live with myself if I knew that I brain washed a convert. I have enough internal torment with what I put my kids through in the name of religion.
Posts by Chook
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17Anyone else feel guilty about bringing others into the "truth", once you have learned TTATT ?
by Dunedain ini guess this is not so much about guilt, per se, but more so if you feel an obligation to reveal what you now know about ttatt, to those who you have studied with, taught the "truth" to, and are still in the borg ?.
i am sure most of us, after learning about the evils, and lies perpetrated by this organization, must feel some sort of guilt for being the catalyst in "exposing" others to the cult.
honestly, i feel none of us should actually, feel guilty though.
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Judical committee flaws
by Chook inif an elder sitting in a jc has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding.
in a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal.
regardless i know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal.
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Chook
If an elder sitting in a JC has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding. In a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal. Regardless I know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal. If Ray Franz couldn't defend himself what chance has a single sister got.
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Farewell
by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM indue to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.
proverbs 14:16 nlt.
i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.
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Chook
WFWR
you will return to this fold due to NO Christian principles applied to JW law.
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Old Letter to the Governing Body
by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM inthis is an older letter i wrote to the gb in october last year in regards to their policy around shunning of dissociated ones.
the letter doesn't focus on the disfellowshiped, but am in the process right now of writing to them regarding their recent watchtower on shunning disfellowshipped relatives.. the letter i wrote back in october rambles on a bit, but wanted to express my frustration to the governing body about their very unfair policy toward those who simply choose to leave.. regards.
the governing body.
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Chook
The GB get hundreds of letters of similar content, they the GB will read none of these . They are the popes of WT ,there are more important issues in their mind, such as selling the family heirlooms. I know most JW think these guy are Jesus on earth but I'm afraid to say that these guys don't eat with sinners.
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Those who were converts from another faith. When did you realize that you were being lied to?
by TTWSYF inmy experiences have included being lied to about what the bible says.
mind you , i am not referring to scripture twisting, i mean out right lying about what is written.. obviously at least some here didn't realize until it was later.. just wondering what others experienced.. thanks.
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Chook
When I read elders book about page 38 paragraph 19
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To all former Elders – what are your thoughts
by Tallon inif you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?
how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?
were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?
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Chook
I'm so glad I was never a elder, now that I'm awake I would beat myself up and be forever emotionally wrecked if some poor bastard committed suicide after I DF them.
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Easier to be a JW now?
by Xanthippe inreading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.
get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.
or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.
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Chook
To be subjected to guilt riddled speeches and to conform to business dress codes is enough punishing for my soul. Non returnable time is why most won't go back ever.
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So When Do You Think The Watchtower Sign Will Come Down in Brooklyn?
by Wild_Thing ini think we should have a street party in brooklyn when it happens!
it would be a "tearing down of the berlin wall" type of celebration!
i would totally fly to new york for that!
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Chook
Yes I think it's worth a party, but the problem lies in it will rise at Warwick , at least on cows see it their.
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"God does not desire any to be destroyed "
by stuckinarut2 inso if that quote from the bible is correct, for every year that goes by another couple of million people will need to be destroyed.
it just doesn't make sense right?
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Chook
I just don't now why God wrote such a complicated story. This is movie material twisted.
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See? Being an Ex-JW Can Be Funny!
by Wild_Thing ini have to find recordings of this comedian!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ex-jehovahs-witness-deborah-frances-white-on-door-knocking-with/.
ex-jehovah's witness deborah frances-white on door knocking with michael jackson and ditching the 'cult'.
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Chook
Being an xjw puts us in a league few have traveled, theirs the guilt ridden thoughts of wasted time, then it's the damage we have caused others due to following false prophets. The I'm such a fool thoughts damage the xjw .Eventually we have to look only forward and it's then we heal and find happiness .