Imagine if JWs decided from now on all children baptised under age 18 can freely leave the church with no family sanctions or or those sexually abused are free to leave also with no sanctions. There would be a lot of people claiming to be abused just to get the ticket out, but as soon as they had there first birthday party or Christmas it would be back to the shunning and the church court goes full swing.
Posts by Chook
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32Uniting Church apologises to victims of sexual abuse, Jehovah's Witnesses defend treatment
by NikL inapologies if this has been posted already.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/uniting-church-in-australia-apologises-to-victims/8344496.
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Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?
by DATA-DOG inwith all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
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Chook
There is NOTHING wrong with the two witness rule because nearly all nations judicial systems have checks and balances so someone can't accuse a person of something without supporting evidence. The problem with WT is it has to be two humans, a court of law allows other factors which can support the accuser , such as e.g body damage to support a assault charge. Doctor evidence regarding rape.
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Are JW's Getting More Comfortable Discussing Politics?
by freemindfade injust curious if anyone else has observed a more willingness by witnesses they know to openly discuss politics (out of the context of the "truth")?
i have noticed it within my own microcosms of jws i know.. have you observed this?.
i am sure with this last years political climate it's hard for anyone to resist chiming in.
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Chook
They have always been happy talking politics. Is such and such a brother going to qualify for position of MS elder
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This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe
by cofty insometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
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Chook
I do believe, I believe he wants nothing to do with me.
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The reality of "shunning" and character assasination highlighted at the Australian Royal Commission
by stuckinarut2 inonce again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
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Chook
The most alarming thing is that the GB hid behind diplomatic immunity . That's their real character. Baptism of children is a crime when a church puts sanctions on the child for not being able to explore other beliefs .
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What is having the biggest impact on the watchtower Bible and tract society?
by UnshackleTheChains inhi all.. this is a reasonable question and would love to know what you think is having the biggest impact on watchtower.
there is a plethora of websites talking negatively of watchtower.
there are the never ending court cases regarding child abuse allegations.
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Chook
INTERNET. It's the control of information which people base the beliefs and character on.
WT undoing is all old literature has been archived by only the apostates . JW don't want to know about the crackpot writings passed 1960, really they would like to wipe all there history . They will have hire trump to flush their CIA style leaks. Like I said it's all the internet. Information is king. The worlds peace isn't threatened by armies with weapons, its the internet , if the internet goes down ,money stops , food runs out for all major cities in 3 days. I truly believe there could be a great tribulation, but only because I see the vulnerability of a world that totally relies on electronic money ,electronic money cannot be dispensed with the internet.
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Elders Correspondence Guidelines PDF
by pale.emperor inhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0b0d-uj0uvjrasknuagrmd0vixza/view.
interesting reading.
a few things i learned from reading this that i wasn't aware of when i was a jw:.
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Chook
I can't believe they still rule people's lives to the most intimate details. Done a great job PE . I had a quick look and am gobsmacked page 98 puts oral sex in the same category as bestiality . Well isn't the GBs bedroom life quite boring. But to impose such unbacked interpretation of scripture regarding oral sex is ludicrous. Just another case af creating more laws for the sheep.
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Chook
All religious politics is determined by votes, theocratic voting is to make sheep think it is gods guidance .They vote MS,Elders ect ect all the way to the top. Who sells most books gets most votes.
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The "Paradise" as promised by the Watchtower
by Saethydd ini was thinking today about the descriptions of the future "paradise" presented by the watchtower, and i was struck by something about it.
most of us are aware that the watchtower promotes an interpretation of the apocalypse that would result in the immediate execution of 99.9% of the population with no hope for resurrection.
additionally, we have been told about the large group of people that are supposed to side with satan at the end of the thousand year reign of christ.
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Chook
If a person who is disfellowshipped for an congregation offence that the WT no longer considers an offence . These persons aren't automatically reinstated , which prove God has zero input into who will live in WT garden. As a church WT focus on the blood and bone fertiliser left on the ground with the death of billions who didn't hear the message about the famous Pennsylvania printing company,its these poor souls who will fertilise their panda garden. Also all bird life just had smorgasbord on our sorry arses for not want ing allegiance to this corporation.
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How can I succeed in life not being a jw again?
by victory inwhen i was a jw, i was taught that i can never succeed in life if i leave the sect.
now that i am no longer a member of the fold, how can i succeed in this only life i have and achieve my dreams?.
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Chook
Success, which is very subjective, can only come about by focusing on the future, and I mean your future. Set goals for tomorrow, try something new in your life. Religions use guilt as a control feature, don't feel guilty for doing anything that doesn't encroach apon another's liberties. If unsure about what directions to take in life ,take a look at people and groups from a distance , contentment and joy are easily picked up with our own intuition. All dreams can come true at the expense of energy, it all depends on how much energy you want to give.