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  Physically In, Mentally Out

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  7 years ago i was this "ultra spiritual elder".

  you name it, i was visible all over the region.

  i was the coordinator, on the convention committee, rbc, had a talk at every convention and assembly, regular pioneer, etc.

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  Chook

  James jack, you are at the beginning of the healing process , one day when it finally dawns on you that you were Jw clergy class who religiously misled sheep with JW doctrine, it will scare you to the core knowing that some will waste their whole life on a religious lie . It's this conscience that turns people into avid apostates .

  There is no justice in the Jw judicial process, kids have killed themselves after JC . I can hear the pain as to the injustices toward you , but think of the lowly publishers that got shafted in various ways , told to marry only in the lord which meant sisters never having children, male bread winners convinced not to further education , children not enjoying competitive sports , the list is endless.

  As to Christian love, don't attend meetings for a while and tell me how many friends you have, you will find solace on this forum welcome.
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  What woke you up?

  by MrRoboto in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

  but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

  then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

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  Chook

  To be honest I don't think I would of woke up without the internet, all JW history and research at your fingertips in the privacy of ones own home.
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  TIL - Russell Purchased His Own News

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watch tower touts russell's prophesying of 1914 (albeit a tad off as to the true fulfillment).. watch tower refers often to "the world" magazine of august 30, 1914.. quotations from this magazine are: "look out for 1914" and "the terrific war outbreak in europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy".

  (box on page 60 in the proclaimers book: “look out for 1914!” when world war i broke out in 1914, “the world,” then a leading newspaper in new york city, stated in its magazine section: “the terrific war outbreak in europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy.

  ‘look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the hundreds of travelling evangelists, who, representing this strange creed [associated with russell], have gone up and down the country enunciating the doctrine that ‘the kingdom of god is at hand.’”—“the world magazine,” august 30, 1914.).

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  Chook

  The modern WT hides the pyramid in the background of "the divine plan of the ages " poster. WT slick marketing and unethical behaviour has a well grounded history. Nothing changes just different actors.
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  They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if only there was a way to hack in and play this.

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.

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  Chook

  Beam this to the millions who won't taste death at all, it's a lovely video for the 2017 district convention. These idiots running Warwick could of forgot about the 75 fiasco, but instead rehash the story with the Orwellian twist so as to try and change history, yet honest hearted ones will see the lie and I guarantee some will leave due to this trying to change history, if they are willing to do this what are they willing to do with the bible during translation.
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  Chook

  I would outlaw all religions that baptised children weren't free to leave without sanctions. As for JWs they are a extremely dangerous religious sect due to deaths from no blood , and their shunning policies that totally wreck generations of family structure . It's only the craziest of Muslim sects that call for death to apostates, Jws would in a heartbeat call for the death of apostates if they ruled a country. So in conclusion JW should fall into the same camp as ISIS, because they both wish death to apostates, so yes BAN them.
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  The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.

  17 - confess and abandon secret sins.

  some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.

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  Chook

  It's all bullshit because no cong would claim that Holy Spirit to be absent if an elder hid sin for twenty years. Elders book p38 para 19 says an elder can possibly keep his job if his immorality was more than a few years in past, their internal elders book even goes on to say that there may be signs of gods blessing on his life, how can there be signs of blessings on his life while at same time gods spirit in hindered in cong due to this immorality.
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  Circuit overseer secret guidebook . 2016

  by TTaTT4U in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b-sccw9wai0qrkdwuhdgcwetcfe/view.

  re: race.

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  Chook

  The real bullshit is in chapter 20 about brothers to handle complex matters, their qualifications are no different from regular elders , it even goes on to say there mightn't be any in circuit qualified to handle complex matters ( which in reality says none are qualified as elders )Not only that is says list the brothers in rank of wisdom. Now all you window washing/ painters elders who can now handle the complex matter of joe the elder molestering his three year old daughter .
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  Dealing with Elderly Parents Who Still Believe the jw Religion is the truth

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i left the religion back in 2008 right after my mother died,( the total lack of natural love/ affection was the final straw for me).. but my dad has become more and more focused on doing the wt bidding.. it just amazes me how he gushes on and on about the last days, his new bible studies, and meeting parts .

  but yet he makes no effort to have any type of relationship with his grandkids, there are 5 of them , non are witnesses.

  they are the children from several different sisters of mine, and myself.. so how do you deal with the witness stuff always being presented in conversations?.

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  When people are too old and you dash all their hopes by revealing Santa Claus is not real it can have a devastating affect. I think if they are very old just talk about how wonderful the reindeers are. Let them die watching the chimney.
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  Britain Branch to Cease Printing Sooner Than Expected

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source: .

  the demise of printing literature in the u.k. is being brought forward by one year - to march 2018. graphic design and printing support will go too.

  large numbers of "disposable" bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them.

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  Chook

  Paper print is going the way of the dodo bird, WT is going full digital to save cash for the Warwick resort, the only ones head office wants is the brothers with construction skills to keep the realestate company afloat. These literally poor brothers will go to the grave broken by the cult.

  Jws used to brag about the printing skill set learned at bethel , but in reality it's equivalent to bragging about being an expert in fixing video recorders .
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  Chook

  Many predicted I would be DF since this CO visit but I slipped the noose , I'm moving house in next 3 weeks then I will be free of any lynching procedures. Just an update.