Dear Father, please protect us from the machinations of the apostates , please forgive our sin after we confess to the elders , may we continue to have the spirit and strength to shun my pregnant teenage daughter , and finally father allow us to empty our wallets to support the realestate empire.
Posts by Chook
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41Some prayers really annoy me
by stillin ini realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.
co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".
not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".
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Does anyone know how many partook of the emblems last memorial ?
by Chook ini think this is the only growth area in jw land..
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Chook
I think this is the only growth area in Jw land.
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Dealing with Loneliness and Social Anxiety
by NoviceLocs14 inhello, this is my 1st initiated post on this site, so i'm a bit nervous.
i did search for similar topics on this site, but a lot of them have been inactive for several years, so here goes.... a little background, i was pretty much born in "da twoof", baptized at 17, pioneered for about 6 years, was part of the rbc part time, and was even in the foreign language field for the last 3 years i was a jw.
so i pretty much had a pretty active social life within the organization due to being part of all of those things.
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Chook
I don't have all the answers but there is plenty of people on this forum who have experienced similar feeling to you, generally speaking doing things for others is therapeutic. You will have to get out of your comfort zone it will be then that your world will be brighter.
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Physically In, Mentally Out
by James Jack in7 years ago i was this "ultra spiritual elder".
you name it, i was visible all over the region.
i was the coordinator, on the convention committee, rbc, had a talk at every convention and assembly, regular pioneer, etc.
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Chook
James jack, you are at the beginning of the healing process , one day when it finally dawns on you that you were Jw clergy class who religiously misled sheep with JW doctrine, it will scare you to the core knowing that some will waste their whole life on a religious lie . It's this conscience that turns people into avid apostates .
There is no justice in the Jw judicial process, kids have killed themselves after JC . I can hear the pain as to the injustices toward you , but think of the lowly publishers that got shafted in various ways , told to marry only in the lord which meant sisters never having children, male bread winners convinced not to further education , children not enjoying competitive sports , the list is endless.
As to Christian love, don't attend meetings for a while and tell me how many friends you have, you will find solace on this forum welcome.
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What woke you up?
by MrRoboto infor me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).
but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.
then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .
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Chook
To be honest I don't think I would of woke up without the internet, all JW history and research at your fingertips in the privacy of ones own home.
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TIL - Russell Purchased His Own News
by berrygerry inwatch tower touts russell's prophesying of 1914 (albeit a tad off as to the true fulfillment).. watch tower refers often to "the world" magazine of august 30, 1914.. quotations from this magazine are: "look out for 1914" and "the terrific war outbreak in europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy".
(box on page 60 in the proclaimers book: “look out for 1914!” when world war i broke out in 1914, “the world,” then a leading newspaper in new york city, stated in its magazine section: “the terrific war outbreak in europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy.
‘look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the hundreds of travelling evangelists, who, representing this strange creed [associated with russell], have gone up and down the country enunciating the doctrine that ‘the kingdom of god is at hand.’”—“the world magazine,” august 30, 1914.).
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Chook
The modern WT hides the pyramid in the background of "the divine plan of the ages " poster. WT slick marketing and unethical behaviour has a well grounded history. Nothing changes just different actors.
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They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention
by LevelThePlayingField inif only there was a way to hack in and play this.
:).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.
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Chook
Beam this to the millions who won't taste death at all, it's a lovely video for the 2017 district convention. These idiots running Warwick could of forgot about the 75 fiasco, but instead rehash the story with the Orwellian twist so as to try and change history, yet honest hearted ones will see the lie and I guarantee some will leave due to this trying to change history, if they are willing to do this what are they willing to do with the bible during translation.
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Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?
by minimus ini still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.
what about you?.
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I would outlaw all religions that baptised children weren't free to leave without sanctions. As for JWs they are a extremely dangerous religious sect due to deaths from no blood , and their shunning policies that totally wreck generations of family structure . It's only the craziest of Muslim sects that call for death to apostates, Jws would in a heartbeat call for the death of apostates if they ruled a country. So in conclusion JW should fall into the same camp as ISIS, because they both wish death to apostates, so yes BAN them.
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The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
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Chook
It's all bullshit because no cong would claim that Holy Spirit to be absent if an elder hid sin for twenty years. Elders book p38 para 19 says an elder can possibly keep his job if his immorality was more than a few years in past, their internal elders book even goes on to say that there may be signs of gods blessing on his life, how can there be signs of blessings on his life while at same time gods spirit in hindered in cong due to this immorality.
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Circuit overseer secret guidebook . 2016
by TTaTT4U inhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0b-sccw9wai0qrkdwuhdgcwetcfe/view.
re: race.
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The real bullshit is in chapter 20 about brothers to handle complex matters, their qualifications are no different from regular elders , it even goes on to say there mightn't be any in circuit qualified to handle complex matters ( which in reality says none are qualified as elders )Not only that is says list the brothers in rank of wisdom. Now all you window washing/ painters elders who can now handle the complex matter of joe the elder molestering his three year old daughter .