Posts by Chook

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the quote I dared the elders to put in WT mag

by Chook in

i approach elders like a skilled lawyer, more than once i applied this.

i would ask is it better to reveal a serious sin or is it better to hide.

of course we know the answer i received.

Chook

I approach elders like a skilled lawyer, more than once I applied this. I would ask is it better to reveal a serious sin or is it better to hide. Of course we know the answer I received. Then I would quote their elders book page 38 paragraph 19. And proceed to reason with them that it says in elders book that if elder hid his immorality more than a few years and he had evidence of Gods blessing on his life he could hold his job as an elder.

I had one elder tell me there was nothing in book that couldn't be in WT mag , I said bull, then I made him get it out over phone and I asked him if they would put that paragraph in WT mag there would be mutiny. I also said ,would a publisher brother be still on microphones or book counter if he hid immorality. To be honest this elder didn't even realise it was in there , I said if your worried ask your wife if it seems a two tier system. Then I would ask how do you gauge Gods blessing on his life so he can keep his job. We all know it's a BOYS club.

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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

by sp74bb in

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i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

many has shown interest in this situation.

the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

Chook

Tell them you will hear reports of wars do not be terrified the end is not yet.

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The “boldness” of the GB

by Hecce in

this topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.

some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..

Chook

I just need to know if a hall has been dedicated to God, do the pagan purchasers of old halls receive a blessed product. I've never heard of a reverse dedication . I know when we dedicate our lives in water it's irreversible .

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Publisher death nail.

by Chook in

i have done this exactly as quoted more than once.

i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.

then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.

Chook

I have done this exactly as quoted more than once. I ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer. Then I ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder. The crazy thing is that it says if there is evidence of Gods blessing on his life, I just can't comprehend how they equate hiding immorality and blessing in same paragraph. I spoke to elder about their internal elders book and he said there is nothing in ther that wouldn't be in WT mag , I said bull. I was speaking on ph with him when I said turn to page 38 and read para 19, he did then I reasoned with him that I don't think a publisher would be on microphones or book counter next meeting if they hid immorality ,yet mr elder may have served on Judical committees against publishers of lesser crimes .Also I said you have got more chance of walking on water than that paragraph appearing in WT mag. To be honest one elder didn't even know it was in there, I suggest he get his wife's opinion of it.

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I need more faith so I've been told

by hoser in

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i attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.

the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.

he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.

Chook

I've got faith God doesn't have to beg humans for money, O I have more faith than GB in that dept.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Chook

Maybe they're going to release a publisher per hall ratio Te deceive increase. But so true when they ask people to travel ,some are going to understand its only the money. We met at old assembly hall for our regular meeting and when they wanted to renovate or have large assemblies we as publishers were told to pissoff down the road 12 mile ( 20 km for rest of world). Of course I didn't travel and that was only temporary arrangement , to ask elderly and poor to travel long distances at night or in winter is just another nail in some publishers coffin.

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Contradictory Information on the Life of Geoffrey Jackson

by Wild_Thing in

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in geoffrey jackson's autobiography published in in the watchtower, he states that him and his wife went to serve as missionaries on the island nation of tulavu in 1979, and there were only 3 baptized witnesses in all of tulavu, and he translated all of the witness literature into the tuvaluan language in 1980, printing it right there on the island.

the article says they served as missionaries there until 1985 when they were assigned to the samoa branch.. .

in july, 2008, the watchtower society penned a letter to the un human rights council about the treatment of jws in tuvalu.

Chook

Geoffrey Jackson apostatised the JW church when he said it "would be presumptuous to think JW only chanel." I would love to see them all in front of royal commission ,it's like the before a judicial committee. Karma.

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interesting question

by jayjay78 in

firstly i'm a df'd witness.. i was in the org all my life.. vividly remember out witnessing as a kid in the 80s with my mum and having apostates jumping houses before we could get to them ..all the way up the street.. remember it because the guy looked like tom baker from dr who - frizzy hair and long colourful scarf.. i think the people at the doors were made more curious by them actually, so when we knocked ,they were inclined to have a listen.. anyway i'm out and cant see myself ever going back,because my family has fully shunned me..and even if i was to go back and be a member..i don't think i could forgive them...totally scarred me.. anyway my question is :.

if you were head of this religion and you wanted to keep it clean and pure etc..how would you deal with people who delib broke the rules?.

no shunning of course..but whats the alternative?

Chook

Water finds its own level. If a religion promotes a clean life and you belong to it and live contrary lifestyle you are not going to have much in common unless you've got a partner in crime at church or KH. Your not going to promote charity if your a selfish bastard.

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Latest Ancient Coin - 660 Year Old Fourpence

by cofty in

after a very quiet couple of hours detecting this afternoon i was chuffed to find this silver coin.. it is a groat of edward iii of england.

for a long time the only coin available was the silver penny.

if you wanted to spend half a penny or a quarter you literally cut it up.

Chook

I've done in past but the bullet shells and old nails and cans kill me. My 2 children were born in Bendigo . The big nuggets are in dunnolly and kingower.

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Can GB be guilty of sinning against Holy Spirit

by Chook in

the crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of jw children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church.

god created family unit ,gb destroys lives on all levels of family tree.

can this be the unforgivable sin?.

Chook

The crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of JW children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church. God created family unit ,GB destroys lives on all levels of family tree. Can this be the unforgivable sin?