You could ask any who say they have faith that the real measurement for faith is we all line up at the ocean shore and see who can walk the out on the water the longest distance. I have faith my balls will be wet.
Posts by Chook
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18I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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ACTIVISM strategies
by TerryWalstrom inwith the proliferation of social media, more people have been reached by the watchtower organization than ever before in history.
it sure took them long enough!.
at the same time, anti-jw activism has caught fire to counterbalance the propaganda.. there are all sorts of activists operating "out there" using books, videos, podcasts, facebook, and incidental un-witnessing to puncture and perforate the false message and counterfeit codswallop of the governing body.. __________.
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Chook
Terry
I love how you draw them in ,using their own strategies ,brilliant . I live in town where there is an assembly hall and on weekends McDonald's get a lot of JW visitors . The coffee might not be as good as Starbucks but if you were there I think a massive cult healing could take place or at least some provocative thought process could take place. I have family in and I haven't been nailed to the stake yet, but I know it's only a matter of time due to my strong convictions.
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Chook
I thought of putting up a sign"apostate residence".
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Using the term "Watchtower" when talking to a JW
by Sanchy inhas anyone else noticed how alarm bells go off inside a jw mind as soon as they hear someone that "is out" refer to the leaders of this org as "watchtower"?
i've chatted with a few friends now about my doubts and each and every time i've started using phrases such as "watchtower said this" or "watchtower did that", i can almost see their heads about to explode in anger, as if they've just realized they are talking to the lucifer himself.
some have even interrupted and corrected me by reminding me that it's not "watchtower", it's "god's organization".
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Chook
Try referring to KH as "our church" and see the reaction. Or that every JW who left another church to join JW is an apostate to the religion they left.
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Can GB be guilty of sinning against Holy Spirit
by Chook inthe crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of jw children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church.
god created family unit ,gb destroys lives on all levels of family tree.
can this be the unforgivable sin?.
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Chook
Splash
everlasting cutting off, is the same as sinning against Holy Spirit according to the black book.
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How to start....
by The Rebel ini think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the w.t.
obviously circumstances are different for each individual.. my advice is:-.
a) fade gently but with the objective never to return.. b) my opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.. c) if you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then i would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a j.w never could.. d.) as for armeggedon, that's simply control by fear.
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Chook
I think if it's deseased it should not be touched. Stop touching the unclean thing. But I fully understand if you use a slower strategy due to family ties. But the problem with the fade is such a loss of precious time.
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Elder Arrest Scaremongering
by jw07 inlast week there was a meeting with all the elders and ministerial servants about responsibility in the kingdom hall and blah blah blah.. one elder brought up a scenario where all the elders were arrested, and we were asked if the meeting would still go on, and how.. this is the second time within a month that i've heard that scenario posed by an elder in my congregation.. does anyone have any idea of the trash being fed to them in letters recently?.
is this a scenario that hq is putting out there, or are the fear mongering convention videos driving their imaginations wild?.
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Chook
If they hadn't changed their mind so often regarding the book of revelation and its interpretation, the original story with all the beasts and their glory could be put in JW script for their final party ,where we apostates on this forum will be bled dry by Big Tony Morris. We know WT rode the beast of the UN for ten years , wild beasts and blood sports have held the masses for centuries , so our BOYS at Brooklyn are rodeo champions ,hang on for the ride of scare mongering and fear . Mr Lett that smile as you kill those dear children in Bangladesh where there is only one brother to one million people. O I'm sure they have heard Gods name , as they bleed.
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So How'd you like your Last Resting Place?
by snugglebunny inlike this perhaps?
it is pretty cool after all... .
(i took both of these pics and the difference was, well, obvious!).
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Chook
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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Chook
You could ask them where is the signed document that I have subjected myself to your authority .
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Publisher death nail.
by Chook ini have done this exactly as quoted more than once.
i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.
then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.
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Chook
Which proves no Holy Spirit involved in appointment