Chook

Joined

• started 118 topics
• posted 1,348 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Chook

• 
  13

  From Bob Hope Theater to JW Assembly Hall

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.

  i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.

  i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  There not many building corporations like WT , it renovates and builds with free labour . I always love seeing them in hard hats on site , when in reality they needed the hats for the meetings at KH so the mental bullshit coming down from platform wouldn't damage their mental capacity .
• 
  32

  Using the term "Watchtower" when talking to a JW

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone else noticed how alarm bells go off inside a jw mind as soon as they hear someone that "is out" refer to the leaders of this org as "watchtower"?

  i've chatted with a few friends now about my doubts and each and every time i've started using phrases such as "watchtower said this" or "watchtower did that", i can almost see their heads about to explode in anger, as if they've just realized they are talking to the lucifer himself.

  some have even interrupted and corrected me by reminding me that it's not "watchtower", it's "god's organization".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  Could also refer to the corporation in its different locations, they have many business names registered any will do. Remind them not to forget their book quota report each month. You also remind them there employment details change when they fail to report work card for six month , inactive workers don't get end of world bonuses.
• 
  17

  Anyone else feel guilty about bringing others into the "truth", once you have learned TTATT ?

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess this is not so much about guilt, per se, but more so if you feel an obligation to reveal what you now know about ttatt, to those who you have studied with, taught the "truth" to, and are still in the borg ?.

  i am sure most of us, after learning about the evils, and lies perpetrated by this organization, must feel some sort of guilt for being the catalyst in "exposing" others to the cult.

  honestly, i feel none of us should actually, feel guilty though.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  I was lucky , I was in 27 years and I failed to convert anyone not even my two children. I'm glad my Jw sales never worked , I wouldn't seriously live with myself if I knew that I brain washed a convert. I have enough internal torment with what I put my kids through in the name of religion.
• 
  13

  Judical committee flaws

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if an elder sitting in a jc has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding.

  in a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal.

  regardless i know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  If an elder sitting in a JC has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding. In a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal. Regardless I know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal. If Ray Franz couldn't defend himself what chance has a single sister got.
• 
  28

  Farewell

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.

  proverbs 14:16 nlt.

  i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  WFWR

  you will return to this fold due to NO Christian principles applied to JW law.
• 
  13

  Old Letter to the Governing Body

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is an older letter i wrote to the gb in october last year in regards to their policy around shunning of dissociated ones.

  the letter doesn't focus on the disfellowshiped, but am in the process right now of writing to them regarding their recent watchtower on shunning disfellowshipped relatives.. the letter i wrote back in october rambles on a bit, but wanted to express my frustration to the governing body about their very unfair policy toward those who simply choose to leave.. regards.

  the governing body.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  The GB get hundreds of letters of similar content, they the GB will read none of these . They are the popes of WT ,there are more important issues in their mind, such as selling the family heirlooms. I know most JW think these guy are Jesus on earth but I'm afraid to say that these guys don't eat with sinners.
• 
  8

  Those who were converts from another faith. When did you realize that you were being lied to?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my experiences have included being lied to about what the bible says.

  mind you , i am not referring to scripture twisting, i mean out right lying about what is written.. obviously at least some here didn't realize until it was later.. just wondering what others experienced.. thanks.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  When I read elders book about page 38 paragraph 19
• 
  24

  To all former Elders – what are your thoughts

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?

  how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?

  were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  I'm so glad I was never a elder, now that I'm awake I would beat myself up and be forever emotionally wrecked if some poor bastard committed suicide after I DF them.
• 
  36

  Easier to be a JW now?

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.

  get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.

  or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  To be subjected to guilt riddled speeches and to conform to business dress codes is enough punishing for my soul. Non returnable time is why most won't go back ever.
• 
  4

  So When Do You Think The Watchtower Sign Will Come Down in Brooklyn?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think we should have a street party in brooklyn when it happens!

  it would be a "tearing down of the berlin wall" type of celebration!

  i would totally fly to new york for that!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Chook

  Yes I think it's worth a party, but the problem lies in it will rise at Warwick , at least on cows see it their.