My research tells me that the word Elohim means gods. Not sons of gods not angels but gods. But hey know one wants to admit that there were several gods that made man and several gods that tried to kill man in the flood story etc etc etc.
Crazyguy2
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Would the Jehovah's Witnesses benefit from the Sethite View?
by I_love_Jeff ini contacted yahoo answers rep and disputed this issue.
ridiculous!!!.
jehovah's witnesses: is the sethite view something you would benefit from?.
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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.
by Tameria2001 ini am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.
my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.
there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.
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Yeah a talking snake good one! The idea of a paradise comes from the Egyptians and the Osiris cult. If you were a good person and could pass all the trials and tribulations and your heart was pure you would be resurrected back into your mummified body and move on to the “Field of Reeds” paradise! The Greeks copied the idea with their Elysian Fields. Rutherford apparently studied some Ancient Greek.
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Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court
by Corney ina woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.
the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.
at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.
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It’s just crazy that these courts will rule in some cases that just about anything that is done by a religion is ok because of the first amendment. This is 2019 it’s time we get out of the dark ages!
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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.
by Tameria2001 ini am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.
my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.
there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.
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Crazyguy2
It’s a combination of Old Sumerian stories. Someone took elements of several different stories and put them together to make the Adam and Eve story. In the original stories a god named Enki created man with the help of a female god and the sacrifice of another god for his blood. The idea of taking a rib to create Eve is from another story about Enki again and another female goddess healing him (can’t remember the details) but do to a mistranslation the mentioning of a Rib is in that story.
Enki had a garden and a man who tended to this garden named Adamu. It’s was also in another story where Adamu was called to the sky gods and then offered immortality if he would eat of the food provided but Enki told him it was a trick so Adamu didn’t eat and therefore didn’t gain immortality. Enki is also the original god that warned man about a coming flood and to save yourself a and to build a boat, save living things.
Yes the alien connection is very tiresome.
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Yesterday's wt: No wonder jws don't get any results from their ministry
by nowwhat? inall about teaching the bible and about god.
what about preaching the gospel of jesus?
there's only about a dozen scriptures that say christians are to bear witness about the christ that they ignore.
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The jws wanted to be different and only preach the father, they ignore the son for the most part don’t want to accidentally get any ideas of a trinity is why I’ve been told. But the real reason could be much more brazen.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood
by Juan Viejo2 infor nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.
that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).
in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.
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I just found out a kH near the one I attended when growing up has been sold. This truly is a dying cult. Generation after generation of young ones leaving by as much as 70% doesn’t work out so well if you want to grow. It was a big hit in the head finding out about this hall being sold. I knew about ones in other areas mostly rural being sold but this one was right in a major Seattle neighborhood.
Its really good news that this cult is going down. Yes not over night but ever little closer , sale or person quitting is a domino. I was just thinking about my kids which are in their teens trying to get married in a few years. With so many people gone or quitting they may really find it hard to find a mate and if they marry a worldly person then there’s a chance they will fall away so more gone.
I know of one young sister in my hall that has gone this route and is now out. Each one of these different events or situations become another dominos and there all being turned over to crush the cult. There’s no way there’s 8.5 million jws in this world , most likely about half that and it’s getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
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Especially when they can get Hemopure (cows blood ) and the GB are ok with it!
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The serpent in the Garden can’t be secretly Satan
by Doug Mason inwe know that the serpent in the garden can’t be secretly satan, because the first time satan is mentioned by name is in a story chronologically after this one, and in that, he is said to be walking.
remember that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly all the rest of his days, but in the book of job, satan is still walking around and chatting with god as if they’d never had a falling out.
this is when god had to ask satan where he’s been, because his infallible omniscience obviously didn’t know.. so if he had to ask that of satan, who is later described as the lord of lies, then why would god believe him?
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In the original stories from Mesopotamia Enki was the god of wisdom and cunning he was also the god of the earth and water. He was also described as being a serpent. Some scholars and archeologists believe he was the serpent in the garden of eden story. Other believe he may have been the god testing Adam and another lesser god also described as a serpent is who talked to Eve.
In stories about Enki he did have a garden and he also had a man named Adamu which was the care taker of the garden.
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Did Russell come up with the no hell fire and no Trinity doctrine or did steal that belief from another religion as well?
by nowwhat? injust wondering hate to give the devil his due.
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Personally I think he pretty much stole everything. He wanted to be different and so I think he went for different fringe Christian ideas and then took the ones he liked and rolled with it.
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Merger aftermath
by Rattigan350 ina couple of months ago, i reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.. on sept 1, cong b merged with cong a using the same hall, thereafter using cong a's meeting times.
also nearby cong c moved into the hall using cong b's meeting times and cong c's kh is being put up for sale.. i've since been to both sunday meetings and both midweek meetings.
at all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street.
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Their falling on hard times as they merge back into the very tiny cult that they once were. A hall near where I grew up has been sold. Used to be two congregations meeting there and now who knows where their going. 30 plus minutes away to the nearest hall. They truly are closing down slowly but they are.