i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
Look at older threads on this site. The year books state how many baptisms per year. They also show how many people are missing per year. Start at looking at these threads. You’ll find the jws are greatly exaggerating their numbers.
Im willing to bet there’s less then 4 million actual baptized jws in the world and the number of ones leaving are higher then back after the 1995 change in the generation teaching, where it looks as though for a few years after they lost about 250,000 per year.
in their letter to lobsto regarding the neo-babylonian chronology, the wts wrote the following regarding the early church fathers:.
less than 200 years after josephus, several early church writers clearly accepted that the length of the desolation or exile was 70 years, and no one gives any other length for this event.
for instance, tatian the assyrian (110 to 172 c.e.
Your looking at this all wrong. Assyria put a curse on Babylon after they removed the people then destroyed the city. The king made the curse 70 years, this is documented. His son reversed the curse or changed it saying was for only 11 years so the city was rebuilt.
I can’t believe that this exact amount of years was a curse put on the levant or Jerusalem also as a curse. Either the idea was stolen or the writings were changed.
i have a married cousin who has moved to work at the walkill farm.
what is the financial situation of someone like this?
i would assume they do not build social security or medicare.
They will be given a monthly stipend unless they volunteered for temporary work then they may get nothing at all. Bottom line is they work for next to nothing and will leave poorer then when they came.
in their letter to lobsto regarding the neo-babylonian chronology, the wts wrote the following regarding the early church fathers:.
less than 200 years after josephus, several early church writers clearly accepted that the length of the desolation or exile was 70 years, and no one gives any other length for this event.
for instance, tatian the assyrian (110 to 172 c.e.
PeacefulPete has the right idea, the real 70 year curse was on Babylon . Most likely it was written about and these writings were later changed to make it as though it was about the desolation by Babylon of the areas around the levant then later changed again to make look as though it was talking only about the Jews.
This is not the only text found in the Bible that was stolen from another source then edited. Noah’s flood , Sampson and the writings of Anumope are just a few examples.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1961047#h=16:285-23:710. we may also safely conclude that angels, god’s spirit messengers, travel at tremendous speeds.
thus once when daniel began to pray, god dispatched an angel to him in answer to his prayer.
this angel, although coming from beyond the realms of outer space, reached daniel before he had concluded his prayer.—dan.
Well since according to old jw writings god lives in the Paladese star cluster so how long would it take for an angel to get here would be the more accurate question.
“it is the only religion which doesn’t go to war.
we have friends in every country on earth and we all think alike---we have the true understanding of the bible.
we are the true religion which god approves………..” says the jw.. to put jws in the context of the question of true religion, we first have to get an insight into how a jw thinks and these points above are the selected criteria chosen by jws to judge themselves.
Here is the truth of religion, you are born and someday you will die. God had nothing todo with it!
make money on stuff already purchased with donations and insurance refunds....
Your right Red but probably what’s going to happen in the future is they’ll ask for the money for disaster relief and then most will just end up in their pockets. They won’t buy expensive equipment like this and probably have just one truck with their name on it that they’ll drive around to make it look like their actually doing something.
Shadrack meshack and not abendigo but Santa Claus
the latest item of the italian language blog proclamatore consapevole details a problem facing jws their bid to move the bethel from rome (which they apparently sold) , into an existent structure in bologna.
a recently enacted law requires existing buildings in that city to be retrofitted to withstand earthquakes.
the problem is that the remedial work is (1) extremely expensive (in many, if not most cases, tearing down the building is cheaper); and (2) the work cannot be done by the usual volunteer labor jws employ on construction projects; it must be contracted to a third-party specialist firm.
Sounds like there will no longer be a need for an Italian branch.
my dad was talking to an elder who was trying to convince him the wt is the only organization god is using to save mankind..
so my dad asked him; “would you still believe if there was a nuclear war and it destroyed 50-75 percent of the earth’s inhabitants including all the watchtower’s main offices?
elder said; “that will never happen, that can never happen, because the bible tells us the steps of armageddon.
If a tornado wiped out Warwick and all the GB then the JWs would wonder.
