Bartolomeo

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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

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  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  jhine

  in Italy we have a saying: "Non c'è peggior sordo di chi non vuol sentire" (there is no worse deaf than someone who does not want to hear)
  
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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  This terse, high quality piece from Dr Sasha Latypova complements her two previous deep dives into the regulatory dossiers for the c19 injections from Pfizer & Moderna.
  
  This one focuses on impacts on existing pregnancies.
  
  It’s dreadful.

  I’m not surprised.
  
  Best wishes
  Dr. Mike Yeadon
  

  https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/covid-19-injections-in-pregnant-women-lead-to-8x-increase-in-spontaneous-abortions-and-3x-increase-in-stillbirths.-a48c57af
  
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  JW's in war zone

  by Gorb in

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  there is so much silence about the jw's in the ukraine conflict.

  are the jw men arrested because they don't want to fight?

  how is that going in the hyper nationalist fase the country is in?

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  nobody talks about the russians persecuted by ukrainians since 2014 in the Donbass? nobody wants those refugees? only the Russians?
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  Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  an avid wts supporter writes:.

  re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

  if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

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  g72 7/8 pp. 27-28 “Keep Abstaining from . . . Blood”

  And here again, it might be noted, that the stand of the Christian witnesses of Jehovah​—that such transplants are in effect a form of cannibalism—​proved a safeguard.
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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22010283
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  faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?

  by enoughisenough in

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  12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

  to answer that, we need to go back to 1914​—the beginning of the harvest season.

  as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.

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  if in a future time they were to review and scrap 1914 the date of 1919 and the related teaching would automatically fall as a domino
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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  Good argument!

  I believe that BTG is an entity that has played multiple roles over time, and I am of the opinion that it can currently be related to Big Pharma:

  - exercises its power over governments

  - commits immorality with national authorities

  - she lives in the most extreme luxury and corrupts others with her wealth
  

  - Rev. 18:23 says "...and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled" - spiritistic practices in the original greek is "pharmakeia" which literally means "the use of medicines, drugs"
  
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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  @Chezdale - thank you for your solidarity message and welcome!

  @Vidqun - very interesting your point of view on Rev. 6: 8, thanks for sharing it!

  I have always considered myself an unconventional JW, in the sense that I have never been 100% in agreement on everything that we have always been taught and I have always had an open mind to different possible interpretations or new readings of the prophecies which, however, I always have kept for me.

  Nevertheless, without too many problems, I supported the line taught by the GB because in any case I was convinced that even if they were not inspired they had (and I believe they still have sincerely) at heart the best interests of the whole brotherhood.

  However, there is a limit to everything, and as we recently studied "Good intentions do not change what Jehovah requires" (2Sa 6:3-5; w05 5/15 17 ¶8), we remember David and Uzzah: even with the best of intentions they both violated the Law and paid for it harsh consequences.

  The WT have always taught us as elders not to make decisions for other brothers in matters of conscience (blood fractions in primis). For vaccines, on the other hand, all these basic rules were violated and they were the first to say that 98% ~ of the Bethelites and missionaries were vaccinated and so on, thus exerting desired pressure while remembering almost every time that it is a matter of conscience. For me this is hypocrisy, two weights and two measures, what else can we call it? how can Jehovah, the guarantor of free will, tolerate it?

  The responsibility of blood should never be underestimated. Think of that episode of David pouring water on the ground (water!) Because the action of procuring it had endangered the lives of three men! David said "How could I drink the blood of these men?" This is moral depth that should make the GB blush
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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  @enough

  as you can well imagine the situation of those who are divergent is not simple, rather dangerous. I am not interested in proselytizing of any kind, even my wife is free to do what she deems best: she has decided like me not to get vaccinated even though her whole family has preferred to follow the instructions of the GB. Obviously we are seen as disobedient, we don't care. Time will bring out the truth and as Daniel 12:10 says "none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand."
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  Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

  it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

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  Bartolomeo

  dear enough I understand the logic game;)

  I am not angry with Jehovah simply because I believe that the GB can attribute to himself all the titles and roles that he prefers but then he will have to account for it to the Father, and then Jehovah will act as Ezekiel ch. 34

  In David Splane's Saturday speech on conscience, many principles were examined that had to be applied immediately to these vaccines: the choice should remain to the individuals and in no case influence the decision of the brothers and sisters!

  I found myself in disagreement from the beginning so I resigned as an elder in order not to be morally responsible for any potential case of adverse reaction. I do not regret my decision, only I have the profound disappointment of a GB who has compromised himself with the world by extolling Big Pharma as a God on the altar of which humanity is sacrificing innocent victims.

  This is a great sin for which Jehovah will ask for an account in my opinion.

  PS: excuse me for my bad english