Posts by NeverKnew

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Most Current Teaching?

by NeverKnew in

are abraham, isaac and jacob returning to earth or heaven?.

NeverKnew

I love you guys....

On the phone now asking really hard questions of someone about Matthew 8:11

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Most Current Teaching?

by NeverKnew in

are abraham, isaac and jacob returning to earth or heaven?.

NeverKnew

Are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob returning to Earth or Heaven?

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New World Translation

by MsD in

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it may seem like a stupid question but who was responsible for translating their version of the bible?

i heard it was ray franz, several governing body members.

does anybody have any legitimate info that can prove who exactly translated it?

NeverKnew

"Walsh Trial" - Scotland in all of its 800+ pages of glory...

http://archive.org/stream/WalshTrial/Walsh_Trial#page/n13/mode/2up

You can google "Walsh Trial" and "Jehovah" and be led to some very interesting snippets.

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Empower Network is definitely a scam

by NoStonecutters in

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has anyone encountered this empower network get-rich-blogging pyramid scheme circulating on the internet?

had a friend that was just taken in by it and now am getting marketing pitches from them.

just wanted you all to know that it is indeed a scam.

NeverKnew

Hey... just realized there may be two JWs in this.

omg... the gullibility.

With no tangible product, it's a scam. They've both already joined. For $25, I'll leave well enough alone.

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33 %

by Theredeemer in

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so, my mother in law who is still active went out in service with the group that had the co visit and came back with some very interesting news.

first off, she knows that we are fading and is ok with it and has some doubts herself.

anyhow, she said that the co went off track during the meeting before service and mentioned how we are now allowed to receive up to 33% of blood in a transfusion.

The blood in any person is in reality the person himself.. poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion."

Watchtower, September 1, 1961, page 564

So don't go crying to the WT when your 83 year old grandfather gets a sex change and turns into a nymphomaniac who steals cigarettes from the local drug store, kills the cashier and then turns the gun on himself. All on you at that point!

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Please help !!!!!!

by mouthy in

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i have just had a very long phone call from a wonderful sounding person ( jw).

she has tried to post on here(simon or angie please read this ).

she called herself bootlicker...why cant she get on.. come on kids tell grannie .

NeverKnew

I MAY have the answer... don't know.

I tried to use my AOL account to sign up. I have 2 aol accounts and tried repeatedly for DAYS to no avail. Waited very patiently for my e-mail confirmation and never got it.

One day I took a shot and used my gmail account and it went through with no problems whatsoever. Got a confirmation e-mail and all!

Try a different e-mail carrier maybe???

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33 %

by Theredeemer in

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friends

so, my mother in law who is still active went out in service with the group that had the co visit and came back with some very interesting news.

first off, she knows that we are fading and is ok with it and has some doubts herself.

anyhow, she said that the co went off track during the meeting before service and mentioned how we are now allowed to receive up to 33% of blood in a transfusion.

NeverKnew

TheRedeemer: This could be perfect timing. A very good friend of mine is a JW. I have been exposing him to the history of his organization and some of what I'm saying is starting to penetrate. We've been looking at the evolution of the vaccination policy from the 20's to today with respect to the loss of life. He's VERY bothered. I have mentioned the evolution of the organ transplant doctrine and told him the language was very similar. Both went from cannibalism to a matter of Christian conscience.

Having seen his suicide bracelet in a previous hospital visit, I'm moving into the evolution of the blood doctrine. I would love to *use* this, but I don't want to become a false prophet.

Please tell me your MIL is not 102 years old and talking to imaginary friends... please?

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

NeverKnew

Ah... a union strike of sorts except, with a union strike you lose your job. With this action, everything known (family, friends and possibly job) could (and likely, will) be taken away.

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Little update

by Kool Jo in

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good day all...i havent posted in a while, but still reading some of the posts...been very busy at my job!.

NeverKnew

Awww.... this is so romantic!

The Golden Age, 1921-OCT-12, Page 17.	"Vaccination never prevented anything and never will, and is the most barbarous practice...We are in the last days; and the devil is slowly losing his hold, making a strenuous effort meanwhile to do all the damage he can, and to his credit can such evils be placed...Use your rights as American citizens to forever abolish the devilish practice of vaccinations."
The Golden Age, 1923-JAN-3, Page 214.	"The public is not generally aware of how large an industry is the manufacture of serums, anti-toxins and vaccines, or that big business controls the whole industry. . . . the boards of health endeavor to start an epidemic of smallpox, diphtheria, or typhoid that they may reap a golden harvest by inoculating an unthinking community for the very purpose of disposing of this manufactured filth."
The Golden Age, 1929-JAN-5, Page 502.	"Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows seeds of syphilis, cancers, eczema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccinations is a crime, an outrage, and a delusion."
The Golden Age, 1931-JAN-4, Page 293.	"Vaccination is a direct violation of the everlasting covenant that God made with Noah after the flood."
The Golden Age, 1935-APR-2, Page 465	"As vaccination is a direct injection of animal matter in the blood stream, vaccination is a direct violation of the law of Jehovah God."
Consolidation, 1939-MAY-31, Page 8.	Oh, yes, serums vaccines, toxins, inoculations, are all 'harmless,' because the man who is selling them says so. You, my friends, believe this LIE, and continue to submit your body to these violations; then all I can say is, 'God have mercy on your soul'…. All vaccination is unphysiological a crime against nature."
The Watchtower, 1952-DEC-15, Page 764.	"Is vaccination a violation of God's law forbidding the taking of blood into the system?" "The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself....And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." "After consideration of the matter, it does not appear to us to be in violation of the everlasting covenant made with Noah, as set down in Genesis 9:4, nor contrary to God's related commandment at Leviticus 17:10-14. Most certainly it cannot reasonably or Scripturally be argued and proved that, by being vaccinated, the inoculated person is either eating or drinking blood and consuming it as food or receiving a blood transfusion. Vaccination does not bear any relationship to or any likeness to the intermarriage of angelic "sons of God" with the daughters of men, as described in Genesis 6:1-4. Neither can it be put in the same class as described at Leviticus 18:23-24, which forbids the mingling of humans with animals. It has nothing to do with sex relations."
The Watchtower, 1961-NOV-1, Page 670.	"As to the use of vaccines and other substances that may in some way involve the use of blood in their preparation, it should not be concluded that the Watch Tower Society endorses these and says that the practice is right and proper. However, vaccination is a virtually unavoidable practice in many segments of modern society, and the Christian may find some comfort under the circumstances in the fact that this use is not in actuality a feeding or nourishing process, which was specifically forbidden when God said that man was not to eat blood, but it is a contamination of the human system."
Awake!, 1965-AUG-22, Page 20.	"There can be little doubt that vaccinations appear to have caused a marked decrease in contagious diseases."
Awake!, 1993-AUG-8, Page 25.	"Previous articles in this journal and its companion, The Watchtower, have presented a consistent position: It would be up to the Bible-trained conscience of the individual Christian as to whether he would accept [vaccinations] for himself and his family."
Awake! 1997-FEB-22. Published by the Watch Tower Society (WTS) as "Revenge of the Microbes"	"In the world's developed countries, new vaccines dramatically decreased the toll of measles, mumps, and German measles. A mass polio vaccination campaign, launched in 1955, was so successful that cases of the disease in Western Europe and North America plummeted from 76,000 in that year to fewer than 1,000 in 1967. Smallpox, a major killer disease, was eradicated worldwide."