what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Okay all... as of now, he's still proceeding with this for this weekend. I'm sick. I know I have to forgive the elders for they are hoodwinked too. Knowing they'll be applying Watchtower Pharasaical law as opposed to logic and reason, is making my stomach turn.
Matthew 9:13 where Christ reminds the Pharisees of Micah 6:8 keeps running through my mind.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyf-0fdzik i would join any church that has music such as that.
is this music common in us churches and is it mostly in black churches?
barry.
VERY common in Black churches, Barry.
It's cultural. *grin*
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Not a jw. I have a jws eyelid open. They are hoping an elder can answer the questions I've posed. Im trying to stop them!
About 6 different major topics!
Once i get enough responses, I will force them to this thread.
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Need more experiences.
Also, how many of you would advise cancelling scheduled appointments?
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Phizzy -
This is for people who have been exposed to historical truths of the WTS. The WT material's answers (or lack thereof) may be really bothering them so they should know what chain of events could happen before discussions with their elders.
Please help me.
yep, i was comparing the nwt with the greek, which, incidentally uses words like 'grace' and 'spirit' instead of 'undeserved kindness' and 'gifts of the spirit'.
i pointed out these mistranslations to my dear husband.. then i showed him 2 tim 2:5-6 in the nwt and the original greek (strong's, westcott and hort) as well, where it says jesus became mediator for all and showed him in the wt where it says jesus is only mediator for 144 000. i also showed him an instance in the wt where it raves on about hating 'apostates' and others, then showed him matthew 5:44 "however i say to you: continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you.".
i didn't have to say anything 'apostate'; just show him the contrasting texts.. then i showed him the "shepherd" book where it says one can get dfd for "deliberately spreading teachings contraryto bible truth as taught by jebovah's witnesses" (ibid, pg 65) and told him that i've deliberately told him something different to the wt teaching therefore in the elders' eyes, i can be dfd.
Ya, Julia!
Does he seem nervous at all?
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
What was the result?
I have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated. This is important.
in a talk i heard recently, the brother was talking about how jws had certain expectations about the end, acknowledging 1914, 1925, surely before 1935 and 1975, then we learned that it's not in our jurisdiction to know jehovah's timetable.
then he said, some say that because we made those mistakes, some say jws are false prophets.
he said that was "simplistic thinking".
My friend told me that there had been no false prophecy for the WTS never claimed to be prophets. I showed him otherwise in the April 1, 1972 WT article.
He then fell back on "they made a bad prediction."
I asked him to show me the difference between a "false prophet" and a "bad predictor" using his Bible.
I have yet to hear an answer from him.
things for jehovah's witnesses to think hard about.. .
1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.
that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.
marking
40+ yrs ago when i moved into this congregation's territory i became good friends with a brother in the congregation, about 20 yrs older than me and about mildest, most easy going person you could meet.
he was just full of old fashion country style common sense, taught me a lot about country life, like heating with firewood, (yes, there is a lot to know about cutting and heating with wood), taught me how to skin and cut up deer, he would help anyone who needed help........., so about 30 yrs ago he was df'd.
we would occasionally bump into each other, i would never not say hello, but him knowing i wasn't suppose to talk to him he would (and i) just move on.
Awwww, Pontoon. That's GREAT! I'm sure your friend will be truly grateful for the companionship after all these years. :)
