Posts by NeverKnew

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warped logic from the memorial talk

by why144000 in

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speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

warped logic at its finest!.

NeverKnew

So.. is this a way to try and suppress another uptick in the partaking numbers?

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

NeverKnew

Oh and Gary, great thread on page 1... I'm just going to have to copy and paste some comments from it for presentation. It's in the private discussions so I don't think he can get to it.

BTW, your comments/suggestions are being read. Please, if there are any more pieces of advice, please post them. :)

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

Okay all... as of now, he's still proceeding with this for this weekend. I'm sick. I know I have to forgive the elders for they are hoodwinked too. Knowing they'll be applying Watchtower Pharasaical law as opposed to logic and reason, is making my stomach turn.

Matthew 9:13 where Christ reminds the Pharisees of Micah 6:8 keeps running through my mind.

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Better than the Mormon choir. More Dynamic than Sister Act

by barry in

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyf-0fdzik i would join any church that has music such as that.

is this music common in us churches and is it mostly in black churches?

barry.

NeverKnew

VERY common in Black churches, Barry.

It's cultural. *grin*

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

NeverKnew

Not a jw. I have a jws eyelid open. They are hoping an elder can answer the questions I've posed. Im trying to stop them!

About 6 different major topics!

Once i get enough responses, I will force them to this thread.

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

NeverKnew

Need more experiences.

Also, how many of you would advise cancelling scheduled appointments?

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

NeverKnew

Phizzy -

This is for people who have been exposed to historical truths of the WTS. The WT material's answers (or lack thereof) may be really bothering them so they should know what chain of events could happen before discussions with their elders.

Please help me.

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My husband MISSED the meeting today! AGAIN!!!

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

yep, i was comparing the nwt with the greek, which, incidentally uses words like 'grace' and 'spirit' instead of 'undeserved kindness' and 'gifts of the spirit'.

i pointed out these mistranslations to my dear husband.. then i showed him 2 tim 2:5-6 in the nwt and the original greek (strong's, westcott and hort) as well, where it says jesus became mediator for all and showed him in the wt where it says jesus is only mediator for 144 000. i also showed him an instance in the wt where it raves on about hating 'apostates' and others, then showed him matthew 5:44 "however i say to you: continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you.".

i didn't have to say anything 'apostate'; just show him the contrasting texts.. then i showed him the "shepherd" book where it says one can get dfd for "deliberately spreading teachings contraryto bible truth as taught by jebovah's witnesses" (ibid, pg 65) and told him that i've deliberately told him something different to the wt teaching therefore in the elders' eyes, i can be dfd.

NeverKnew

Ya, Julia!

Does he seem nervous at all?

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

NeverKnew

What was the result?

I have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated. This is important.

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False prophets or simply wrong expectations?

by leaving_quietly in

in a talk i heard recently, the brother was talking about how jws had certain expectations about the end, acknowledging 1914, 1925, surely before 1935 and 1975, then we learned that it's not in our jurisdiction to know jehovah's timetable.

then he said, some say that because we made those mistakes, some say jws are false prophets.

he said that was "simplistic thinking".

NeverKnew

My friend told me that there had been no false prophecy for the WTS never claimed to be prophets. I showed him otherwise in the April 1, 1972 WT article.

He then fell back on "they made a bad prediction."

I asked him to show me the difference between a "false prophet" and a "bad predictor" using his Bible.

I have yet to hear an answer from him.