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  Dear Mother -- Is that a lie or a mistake?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i believe that jehovah's witnesses are mostly honest people.

  it's unfortunate for the honest ones -- especially embarrasing -- if they're ambushed by some person in their door to door work with evidence that their leadership throughout modern history has knowingly said things that are not true.

  the following essay attempts to document one such trail of watchtower dishonesty.

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  NeverKnew

  Loved this essay
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  A personal message to you lurking Jehovah's Witnesses out there

  by Terry in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  while you were sitting in that uncomfortable folding chair the other night.... listening to something you've heard already a thousand times before.... do you know what was happening at the same time?.

  somebody somewhere else was studying a real textbook.

  somebody was cramming for a college exam.

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  NeverKnew

  Good points....
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  Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

  one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

  please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

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  NeverKnew

  Honeybucket: Congratulations for being so brave. :)

  If you were to ask around, I'd have to guess you would be hard pressed to find a traditional Christian who would express an aversion to the use of the name "Jehovah". I had no clue that the JWs were teaching a mandatory use of this name and my knowledge about JWs probably fell well within norms. I just thought they leverage the name Jehovah cause they were? Jehovah's witnesses! Boy was I a moron.
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  Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

  one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

  please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

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  NeverKnew

  Another tradition of some black churches is to have performers with dancing or mimes. In tradition with our culture, there's more color, the movements are more flamboyant, the voices are very assertive.

  Maybe not fair, but I decided I'd much rather watch a mime act praising God than a training session on how to slam a householder with the finite wisdom of a group of men in Brooklyn.

  I'm so angry for him... not with him... for him today. Can you tell? *sigh*

  There are several small church postings of performances on Youtube. I wouldn't DARE show him a MIME version of the song - he'll swear the performers are worshipping the devil. :( Here's an example of two mime artists performing during a service - same song - you know, the one with the name Jehovah in it.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRnVqQsmJuU
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  Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

  one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

  please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

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  NeverKnew

  Just an alternate name for us, Barry! We do not necessarily deny alternate names. In fact, I even heard "Allah" used recently.

  In the interest of the name Jehovah, I read a BULLCRAP article in a Watchtower publication that talked about some Protestant that argued with a JW about why the name "Jehovah" wasn't used in the printing of a Bible. The response was a hilarious one... something about re-printing costs? Just about everyone on here knows that "Jehovah" is the invention of a Roman Catholic monk. Well, guess what, the Protestant movement was originally a rejection of Roman Catholicism and SO... would it make sense for the Protestant churches to start recongizing the name a Roman Catholic monk made up as God's true name? Absolutely not. Knowledge is power.... get some.

  Barry, because you were asking about music in America, here is one of my favorite songs. Many mornings, I listen to it on my way to work. In it, you'll hear the name "Jehovah Jirah" and "God". I so wish I could share this song with my JW friends. I'd love for someone to tell me where the song crosses the line of JW doctrine. They miss out on so much. :'(

  This cult hurts.

  More ethnic version.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUaGoS2LW5g

  Larger choir - mixed diversity (kinda cleansed for a broader audience - you'll be able to tell in the end)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO2JPnxPmFg
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  I'm new here

  by WrongweektostopsniffingGlue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't got much of a story.

  i'm in my late teens, grew up in it, and got out of the society's regime by the skin of my teeth.

  nearly go baptized because i firmly did believe it was the "truth" but because of a gut feeling that held me back, that i almost ignored, i didn't sign my blood to big brother.

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  NeverKnew

  Your name is hilarious. WELCOME! :)
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  A Woman Jumps Into HE Pool While Jehovah's Witnesses were baptizing new converts

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bq0akfvxo what do you think?

  could this have been a mental health issue?

  may be she was excited?

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  NeverKnew

  WAHOO! ANOTHER BAPTISM REVERSAL!
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  Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).

  i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.

  because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?

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  NeverKnew

  Just because one takes the stance of being an atheist doesn't mean disrespecting the theological teachings of Christianity.

  Secular humanist ideology mostly steps in hand with Christianity when you really think about it.

  Good point. :)

  I'd be curious as to how many non-jws brain-slept through the ceremony and then partook. I sincerely don't think it's a matter of IF it happened. I'm sure they weren't counted.
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  Confused about Satan's plan according to WTS

  by new22day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my rudimentary understanding of jw beliefs is that satan is leading traditional christian religions and the wild beast of the un is his tool.

  is the wts concept that the un will eventually ban all religion and this will start the big a?

  wouldn't satan be working at cross purposes if 'he' is leading the false religions too??

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  NeverKnew

  but it is such a steaming pile of BS that I gave up.

  Now that's funny but ...uh... ew?

  New22day, if the jws aren't able to take the stench, we should definitely get our noses out of it. :)
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  Anyone taking bets on the number of partakers this year?

  by wha happened? in

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  2. beliefs

  even with the change to "just domestics", i can't see the number going down.

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  NeverKnew

  Reading the threads, I had the impression that the language before the actual ceremony strongly suggested not partaking. I also had the impression that this language either hadn't been used or hadn't been so strong in the past.

  Wouldn't that have dissuaded some and possibly affected the numbers?

  Or was it same ol'?