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  Paul's rationale...

  by NeverKnew in

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  2. bible

  as a non-jw discussing "the only true" christianity with jws, i brought up romans 14 for obvious reasons.

  after reviewing the chapter as a whole and asking appropriate questions, i went back up to verse 11 and sincerely asked, .

  "by the way, how are comparative verses like romans 14:11, isaiah 45:23 and phillippians 2:9-11 interpreted in your faith with the same language being attributed to the father in the ot and jesus in the nt?

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  NeverKnew

  As a non-jw discussing "the only true" Christianity with JWs, I brought up Romans 14 for obvious reasons. After reviewing the chapter as a whole and asking appropriate questions, I went back up to verse 11 and sincerely asked,

  "By the way, how are comparative verses like Romans 14:11, Isaiah 45:23 and Phillippians 2:9-11 interpreted in your faith with the same language being attributed to the Father in the OT and Jesus in the NT? Wouldn't that have been heretical? and Paul did this repeatedly so, according to that which you've always known, what was Paul's reasoning?"

  So, they're going to get back to me. It's only been two weeks and I've talked to one of them every day. I'm sure they're working on a VERY THOROUGHLY researched explanation.... maybe there's a peer review that has to happen first.

  Can anyone prep me with a simplified WTS explanation for Paul assigning descriptors to Jesus that were said to belong only to God?
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  Contributing factor to Roman Catholics converting to JW

  by NeverKnew in

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  2. beliefs

  my jw friend once asked that if churches were so great why did so many roman catholics convert to his religion.

  now i have some semblance of an answer!.

  i spoke with a professor who definitely had some familiarity with the wts.

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  NeverKnew

  GromitSK and Juan:

  You might agree that there is an inherent mistrust across all churches for people who rail against other denominations. It's considered inappropriate and disrespectful. I'm blown away when I read JW material that speaks condescendingly about other Christians. That's foreign to me.

  Grom, I suspect we'd be more educated on defending our denominational affiliations if we were trained like the JWs to do so. But then... I see where arrogance and hatred towards others would easily creep in. "Love" at this point would be lip service and we'd be loving only those who think like us.

  Most non-JWs are unaware of JW beliefs and challenges. I really wish that weren't the case.

  And also with you, Juan
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  Natural disasters and the use of Propaganda

  by jonno12225 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i came across these two videos on youtube lokking at the recent hurricane to hit areas on the eastern seaborde of america.. .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhskieelptk.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yc3fikovw.

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  NeverKnew

  Is anyone else creeped out by this?

  Mormons

  JWs

  Save for 4 seconds, they're almost even identical in length.
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  Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

  of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

  253 acres???

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  NeverKnew

  Ulster County, NY... Kingdom Halls maybe? Don't know...

  So far, there seems to be more buying than selling...

  
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  Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

  of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

  253 acres???

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  NeverKnew

  Rockland County, NY

  
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  Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

  of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

  253 acres???

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  Putnam County, NY... may not be the same project but purchased in 2012

  
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  Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

  of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

  253 acres???

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  NeverKnew

  I love the internet. Such a useful tool.

  These are the Orange County transactions. Looking at neighboring counties now.

  
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  Contributing factor to Roman Catholics converting to JW

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw friend once asked that if churches were so great why did so many roman catholics convert to his religion.

  now i have some semblance of an answer!.

  i spoke with a professor who definitely had some familiarity with the wts.

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  NeverKnew

  Longhairedgal:

  "Plain-clothed clergy" - now THAT made me laugh!

  Cantleave:

  I have to imagine the reverse is true. If you've come to believe in a doctrinal faith, you stick with that which is comfortable. Just my guess.

  Carla:

  If you ever find the handy visual, I'd love to see it!
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  Change of 144000 doctrine?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine just got given a recording of the last ca which was held here a couple of weeks ago and she said there's been a change to the 144k teaching.

  she didn't understand what the hell they were rabbiting on about.

  she's really waking up as a result of all these changes, and so are some others she knows.. anyone know of any change to the 144k doctrine?

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  NeverKnew

  It seems like the older publications just stated the new truth with no mention of the old truth. But here I see...

  This adjusts what was stated on this subject in “Questions From Readers” in The Watchtower of August 15, 1990, page 30.

  Is this an attempt to move towards transparency since the WTS (and possibly the adherents) are being asked to justify reversals or is an acknowledgement of an "adjustment" regularly used...
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  Change of 144000 doctrine?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine just got given a recording of the last ca which was held here a couple of weeks ago and she said there's been a change to the 144k teaching.

  she didn't understand what the hell they were rabbiting on about.

  she's really waking up as a result of all these changes, and so are some others she knows.. anyone know of any change to the 144k doctrine?

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  NeverKnew

  From Listener:

  This adjusts what was stated on this subject in “Questions From Readers” in The Watchtower of August 15, 1990, page 30.

  I don't remember seeing notes of correction adjustments in other Watchtowers. How long have they been doing this?