Posts by NeverKnew

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How Many JWs Are Confident They Are Worthy?

by Ding in

which jws do you think actually feel confident that they would survive armageddon if it came tomorrow?

gb members?

bethelites?

NeverKnew

This very subject really caught me off guard the other night.

My friend just asked me if I believed I was assured of my salvation. I responded, "of course!"

His response, "Well then you don't need me... or any church... or ANYBODY THEN! Why do you even bother going to church?" He demanded to know. I told him that he was right. I loved him, but that I would not be looking to him for salvation.

I've read that in JW theology, there's no salvation guarantee but to hear the notion fall from the lips of a person you care about is hard. He's working himself silly to gain approval. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that this notion is a key motivator to this acceptance of slavery.

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Another story... possibly final story

by confusedandalone in

this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.

it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.

i feel free today.

NeverKnew

I would have loved to have known how long Jehovah's kindess would have lasted had you "provided" a small monthly allowance towards their bills... Like $150.00 a month up to $10,000. At that rate, I'm thinking you would have had a 5 1/2 year extension on His kindness towards you.

I'm really proud of you. :)

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Dysfunctional witness families

by concerned2 in

jw
friends

being raised as a jw i feel dirty even posting here.

my life growing up was one filled with fear.

armageddon was preached to us day/night.

NeverKnew

Concerned2, it sounds like you are really mourning the loss of your father - the only normalcy you had in your life. I'm wondering if losing him brought your awareness of the dysfunction to the surface. Have you had a chance to seek counseling over this loss?

OH! and welcome... I'm really glad you're here. :)

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10 Questions for Elders when they start annoying you

by Terry in

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NeverKnew

Numbers 3 & 4 are HILARIOUS!

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New pedophile case or is this already known on JWN?

by NeverKnew in

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http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/washington-jehovahs-witness-church-tried-5105919.

washington church tried to keep child abuse secret16 jul 2013 09:18church elders at lambton kingdom hall in washington knew that a ministerial servant had abused a young girl but fought against giving evidence in court.

NeverKnew

Sorry guys... I found it.

It just came up today on my google news reel. I'm late...

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New pedophile case or is this already known on JWN?

by NeverKnew in

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http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/washington-jehovahs-witness-church-tried-5105919.

washington church tried to keep child abuse secret16 jul 2013 09:18church elders at lambton kingdom hall in washington knew that a ministerial servant had abused a young girl but fought against giving evidence in court.

NeverKnew

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/washington-jehovahs-witness-church-tried-5105919

Washington church tried to keep child abuse secret

16 Jul 2013 09:18

Church elders at Lambton Kingdom Hall in Washington knew that a ministerial servant had abused a young girl but fought against giving evidence in court

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Personality types and religious adherence

by EdenOne in

jw
friends

i was going through the personality types of the briggs-myers test (take the free test here) and noticed how some types are naturally inclined to follow rules and expect order, while others are inclined towards feelings and emotional appeals, other are naturally inclined to help out others ... what do you think?

are there certain basic personality types that pre-dispose the individual to adhere to a certain type of religion ?.

eden.

NeverKnew

Non-JW who has tested ENFP 4 times in 20 years.

My JW friend?... ISFP. It may take an emotional WTS beat-down to get him out of this perfectly structured environment. *sigh* I'm keeping my hopes up.

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Need help finding a watchtower!!

by outofthelionsden in

hi everyone, i was hoping someone could help me with this!.

yesterday my husband talk to his jw sister (they haven't talked in years) she found out by her other brothers that we no longer go to meeting .

she grew up as a jw then left and married a "wordly person"got divorced and recently started going to the meetings.

NeverKnew

Aid to Bible Understanding (1971) - must be a huge book cause the reference is on pages 884-885

Now... the pdf? Can't help you - not a JW. *sigh* Sorry...

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Did it trip your brain when non-JW Christians got persecuted?

by Wayward Son in

the foretold turn of gubberment on religion hasn't begun yet.

that event is supposed to happen with a "swift pitch", an event that will be unmistakable at it's onslaught.

for the time being, any violence toward "babylon the great" cannot be attributed to the fulfillment of revelation 18.. .

NeverKnew

So when I mentioned that in addition to the 700 incarcerated witnesses in South Korea there were 70,000 additional Christians in North Korea, this is how it was received and realized I had 70,700 additional people to pray for, this is how the informaton was received, huh...

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Old out-of-touch JWs using antiquated terms

by sir82 in

jw
friends

ever notice how completely out of touch some (most?

) public speakers are?.

last week we had a speaker ramble on for fully 1/3, maybe 1/2, of his 30 minute talk on the evils of "rap music".. i don't believe the term "rap music" has been uttered by anyone under the age of 40 for at least 20-25 years.. this week we got another "older gentleman" warning us about the pervasive dangers of "internet chat rooms".. again - didn't "chat rooms" die out about the same time as dialing up to connect to aol?.

NeverKnew

It's not just the elderly JWs.

If my JW friends had more non-JW friends, they'd probably realize that nobody uses the word "fornication" these days. Seems like I hear that word at least once a week.