dear brothers:.
re: personal literature supply.
reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.
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JW07 says, "Only 'apostates' will be hording literature at home."
But doesn't it feel good to know it will be preserved on a hard drive or in a cloud? Now you have garage space!
OH, how some on this board will envy those that are "in" for the literature grab. How much do ya' think that Trinity Brochure will go for in 10 years?
out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
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I know it's old, but I've been handed this article.... again.
my husband and i (both born in jws with extended family all "in" except for one of my sisters who left when we did) left the church 5 years ago.
we did not fade, we just didn't believe it anymore, told our families so and left.
obviously, big drama in our family after this, messy feelings, etc.
Oh... sloppy... I had a conversation with an elder on Romans 6. He focused on verse 23. I asked him to show me where, in the chapter, Paul spoke of a physical death and not the death of sin at the point of baptism. He couldn't.
Ask her why, in the WDTBRT book James 1:13 is about God's will on page 10 and man's will on page 29.
How about... why, on the same page of the WDTBRT book, there's a sentence that says God is NEVER the source of wickedness you see in the world? Can that be reconciled with Proverbs 16:4, Isaiah 45:7, Exodus 4:11, Eccl 7:14, Amos 3:6, 1 Peter 4:19 and the point of the story of the potter as told in the Old and New Testaments? Go to Romans 9:10-25 and focus on verses 18-23. What do we do with THAT truth? Was Jeremiah lamenting Satan's activities in Lamentations (look at chapter 2) or the hurt caused by the Lord's wrath?
Who brought the Great Flood?... (I suspect she'll tell you THOSE people were evil!)
Who killed the 70,000? Were THEY all evil? Did those events "happen" or were those events "caused" by the Lord?
If you set the trigger correctly, you'll hear about "the churches" saying "a death is God's will"... ask what the WTS does with James 4:15 and to ask if "this or that" is scripturally defined. If it is, I want to avoid that activity.
all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?
would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?
would they really not read about them from other sources too?.
Wow... Kairos. That really puts it into perspective. If 8,000,000 witnesses placed a tract each (as in one for the entire month), we're talking a success rate for personal visit requests of .045%?
With more than one tract per adherent disseminated, that incredible success rate diminishes exponentially. I feel so sorry for those that I care about right now.
Anybody know the average number of tracts typically disseminated per person?
all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?
would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?
would they really not read about them from other sources too?.
...."the majority of those who receieved tracts will not go to the website"
I'll take it further. The only conceivable reason I could see a non-jw going to the website would be to understand why someone in their social sphere who IS a JW operates a certain way. ...so as not to offend them.
People who are disinterested in religion, are definitely disinterested in a religion that requires a lot of effort.
People who are interested in religion are probably already involved in their own faiths. As a JW, if a Mormon had left you a tract with their website address would you have been running to your computer to check it out?
People who are entertained by religion might go but they'd only be there for the entertainment.
Mass conversions? Ain't gonna happen...
I do not believe that this campaign has anything to do with the conversion of non-jws. I believe the goal is to promote that feeling of purpose amongst the adherents. Keep em busy fulfilling a purpose and they'll feel good about paying for that feeling through their donations.
all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?
would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?
would they really not read about them from other sources too?.
I'm a non-jw.
My "normal" friends know that I have JW associates so they've told me they got the tracts.
None showed the slightest interest in visiting the site. ...not even out of curiousity to confirm that which I've told them.
It may as well be an ad for a discounted oil change.
josh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
Welcome Josh!
Wondering if your post might contribute to a long time Witnesses awakening. I hope so.
I'll be excited to read your thoughts on other changes.
our go-to wack-a-doodle elder moved to a new congregation a few years back.
the position has been vacant since then.. we had an elder move in a few months back.
he appears to be angling for the position of resident wack-a-doodle.. at last night's service meeting, he said (paraphrased): "as a congregation, we've been busier than ever before with our special campaign.
One platform topic that seemed a little "off" to me was when the speaker asked if anyone had noticed the unusual increase of birds. The audience pondered for a moment. Then, with facial expressions of enlightenment nodded in curious agreement.
"Has anyone read what Jehovah's plan is for the birds?" he asked. He continued with 2-3 scriptural passages about Armageddon's flesh eating birds. I looked around to see some nodding in agreement and smiling as the speaker spoke of only the JWs being saved.
I've visited a LOT of churches and synogogues, but this was definitely the darkest service I'd EVER attended.
in addition to the recent thread, "how to shut your mind down .
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" (which is excellent) but there was another thread about the same time i'm searching for and unable to locate.
best prescription med but VERY expensive in some countries... Lunesta.
i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.
in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.
once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.
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