Posts by NeverKnew

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Apathy carts in NoCal

by kaik in

i spent couple wonderful days in napa valley and sonoma with visits to san francisco.

what hits me was the number of apathy carts in the city.

they were at powell station, embarcadero, fisherman wharf, etc.

NeverKnew

I heard an invitation today to go to training for them. They're on their way here.

I feel so sorry for them. They are sitting ducks now.

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Tell me what you think.

by Aroq in

ok, i'm willing, and thinking about going to the meetings, but there is a catch.

i'm not, nor ever be a jw.

i know too much about their beliefs.

NeverKnew

I agree with Stan. If you are going for the experience of knowing, go to a hall across town.

Im a non JW too. Is there value to my going? Yeah but only to watch family and friends cringe when they begin their diatribe on hating everyone who isn't involved with the cult. I've lectured them on this.

But please realize, being married with kids is different than my situation. I can see no good that will come out of your going.

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Is the 'growth™' still being hyped?

by punkofnice in

when i was a member of watchtower corporation, i regularly heard how it must be the true religion because of the growth™.

(phenomenal, apparently).. i wonder if they still hang onto this?

has it been boasted about at meetings recently?

NeverKnew

When I talk to witnesses, they speak of the size of their group as being huge. In their minds the number is mind boggling.

My response has been, "oh, so your worldwide group is about half the size of our state? I guess that's not bad. How many are in the US? (Wait for answer)... Ah... Ok. Pretty much the population of our county. For 100 years of preaching work, that sounds like a start."

I did attend a midweek where that Amsterdam movie was shown. The real joke was when they were making a big deal about the multi language literature. Given the sorry number of Bible translations in comparison to traditional Christianity, they really should pipe down. Oh... I'm sorry. The literature that INTERPRETS the Bible is in more languages than their Bible. That's right. 🙄 Traditional Christianity doesn't produce interpretive material. Noooooo

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There seems to be many jw's marrying outside of org recently.

by atomant in

l was wondering if others have noticed this or is just my imagination?my sister whom has always been a fine example of a dub just got married to an outsider was a shock to everyone as no one knew she was dating an outsider.she seems happy.the elders are to shit scared of her to approach her about the matter.

NeverKnew

Does there seem to be more JW females taking on non JW spouses or is it going both ways?

Men having more spiritual glamour (I.e. Privileges) to lose may play heavily on their choices.

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There seems to be many jw's marrying outside of org recently.

by atomant in

l was wondering if others have noticed this or is just my imagination?my sister whom has always been a fine example of a dub just got married to an outsider was a shock to everyone as no one knew she was dating an outsider.she seems happy.the elders are to shit scared of her to approach her about the matter.

NeverKnew

Nonjwspouse I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. The JW party MUST lie to to the nonJW from day 1. Their real perception that eventually comes out is not one of mutual respect for the religious (or non religious) beliefs from which you've come. Once it comes out, the condescending arrogance that you're faced with is unreal.

Many books cover the dual personality of a cult member. At the point of realization that there really are two distinct personalities, a non JW is gobsmacked. I know for me, there was something very wrong when we talked about religion. The logic applied to certain concepts just didn't fit the model of the man I had come to love.

In defense of them, how does one know that they are under mind control... When they are under mind control?

For that reason, I have to suspend condemnation when off-putting things are said. When off-putting things are done they get called on it big time.

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I need your feedback re: anti-shunning campaign

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

alright, so i posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the regional convention part on shunning.

my goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer.

i want to make them think twice.

NeverKnew

So is it your goal to give these postcards to people with disfellowshipped or disassociated family members or are you giving this to everybody involved in that which I call the shunning ministry?

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This week's resurrection video, will it backfire on the wt?

by prologos in

the resurrection is supposed to be a joyous occasion?, if it ever happened!

--well, this week's showing at the hall was the opposite, it was about death with violins playing in the background.

a recently bereaved member, , full of tears, (like many others) could not contain herself.

NeverKnew

Non JW here. Not my first go around at the mid week meeting but my first seeing a video in the middle of a service.

I was confused by the video. I didn't get the religious component. After looking at a few people wipe their eyes, I realized there was some emotional manipulation going on. It was just a weird experience.

I'm the biggest crybaby watching movies but while others must have felt differently, I felt completely disconnected from the characters for some reason.

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When your oldest friend is a JW and they die

by Terry in

in my book, i wept by the rivers of babylon, i described the process of having a friend, johnny santa cruz, use our friendship as a platform for converting me to a jehovah's witness.. that friendship cost me decades of my life in bondage to a cult.. the friendship was real and johnny and i bonded for life.

but, the religion eventually turned him into a stone silence toward me--his oldest friend.

now he is dead and the imaginary reunion and meeting of the minds is no longer a possibility.. this makes his passing a double tragedy.. his memories were my memories.