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  Annointed JW Website Responds to "New Light" on FDS

  by Eustace in

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  on october 7, 2012, we received the following comment and inquiries:.

  today there is a new post [on another website] commenting on the "new light" of the governing body about the identity of the "faithful discreet slave.

  " i think this "new light" from the governing body is intended to weaken the new stand of witnesses who are partaking in the emblems.

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  NeverKnew

  Well.... uh... I have nothing to add. *ahem*

  And by they way, this was written VERY well.

  Thanks. :)
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

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  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  OUCH! 00Dad, are you serious? I thought this is what you're supposed to say when you're trying NOT to get disfellowshipped.

  Hmm.... so, if someone can get the Society to say they're sorry, maybe the elders can scripturally DF the Society. *giggling*

  All these rules.... this is ridiculous. I have never seen/experienced this. It's no wonder why everyone just smiles and swallows everything. :(

  A woman I affectionately call "mom" told me how she called out a priest one day. When the war ended, he told her that she should not be using any form of birth control when her husband got back. She told him she already had kids so if she got pregnant, she was sending the kid to him to raise. She meant it. End of discussion.
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  He may be a little annoyed. I inferred that He wanted me to believe in

  "God's only 'uninspired' channel of communication."

  I'm having a really tough time with the patience thing. I wish I were better at it.
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  And another (no response from either yet)

  While you're proselytizing, the world is seeing what is happening to the adherents and calling the Society out. This call-out is demanding that they make "adjustments." It's like the world is protecting you from your leadership.

  You are being told you have the most truth, but in the last month, I've seen four changes. 1. F&DS has become the Governing Body (which I knew late summer, but was only revealed quietly to the rank and file a couple of weeks ago) 2. The masthead has disappeared. 3. The baptismal vows may have changed ( I stupidly ask - does everyone have to get re-dunked? Christendom's have been the same for 2,000 years (see Matt. 28:19)) 4. Previous claims of Armageddon are finally acknowledged in a magazine for the public. If the truth keeps changing, I ask myself, how much of it is really truth?
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  I'm with you Mindblown. Should I shoot him in the head? *Sigh*

  Here's one of my responses....

  Jesus was clear about attempts to predict Armageddon at Matt. 24:36, Acts 1:7 and instructions to those who are approached with predictions like this are provided at Luke 21:8. Other scriptures, especially seen in Paul's writings, serve to reinforce what Jehovah expects. Again, I haven't seen any allowances for exceptions.

  The Society needs to ask the most forgiveness from Jehovah, Himself. These were JEHOVAH'S instructions that the Society ignored from 1872 until the masthead change of 1995 (that's 123 years of their 140 year existence) - not the world's. Are *we* comfortable looking for a "technicality" to get the Society "off" by researching "inspiration/non-inspiration" or "prediction/prophecy*?" Are you comfortable looking for technicalities to present before God Himself in favor of the Society with respect to HIS requirements? Are you suggesting there's a fallible hole in His law? :-/

  In all of this, be aware of that which I see at 2 Peter 1:19-21 which tells me: ..."no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation for no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." Missteps such as these are what has the rest of the world realizing that the Society is, in fact, NOT carried by the Holy Spirit. *Please know that the Society used "prophecy" and "prediction" interchangeably in a fairly recent WT article about Harold Camping who predicted/prophesied Armageddon. Given what scripture says at Matt. 7:2, " For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." ... I need for you to tell me why the Society should not be judged by the same standard they judge? Let me know if you need the article.
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  Ultimate... VERY good point.

  We communicated briefly last night. He is so sincerely trying to make this make sense... to me and to himself. He says that he "wanted me to know that the Society has made an admission of guilt and is seeking forgiveness for the things that have been done and said in the past and attempting to make adjustments." Also, "All I can do is pray that you and others can see that and forgive and move forward."

  He said he's trying to show me that Jehovah's Witnesses are not false prophets and that he's researching "inspired" vs. "uninspired". My heart goes out to him. He's really trying. I'm not letting up, but this is hard to watch when you love someone.... not that ANY of YOU would know about this. :)

  I'm going to gently push him back to the "admission of guilt with no remorse" and the statement frequently made by the Society about being "God's only channel of communication."
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  He's only missed... I'd say... 4 Sunday services in the last year and a half.

  I'll stay quiet.
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  HELP! I've stepped in it now... mast head change - JW response!

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.

  asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..

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  NeverKnew

  ...he didn't go to service today. There was no indication that this was planned.

  He seems dazed. If I had to guess, he's researching.
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  My son's heart is broken

  by ruderedhead in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure someone here has experienced this before.

  please help me help my son.

  his wife of 15 months told him last night that she needs her space, that what she wanted 1 year ago isn't the same as what she wants now.

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  NeverKnew

  Sadly, I agree with others. She's seeing someone else.

  I remember my devastation when my husband and I were leaning towards divorce. I had to remind myself that we could ALWAYS re-marry if things worked out but for liability reasons, I needed to end it.

  Having been there? If it were me? I'd call her on it, send her the divorce papers, label it as divorcing for irreconcilable reasons, pray she's not pregnant, and push it through. Getting a divorce doesn't always mean you don't love the other person. It could mean he's deciding not to be legally tied to someone who doesn't love him the way he deserves to be loved.

  Things could work out in a couple of years. In the meantime, he can focus on getting the experience he'll need for the future that's coming whether he's with her or not.
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  RBC biggie divulges WTS expects disaster victims helped by RBC volunteers to fork over insurance money to the WTS

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife spent all morning long preparing this super thanksgiving banquet.

  with a huge turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, cranberry sauce.

  and greenbeen salad, pie and icecream.. yummy!.

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  NeverKnew

  Help the non-JWs here.

  Their function seems clear, but could someone translate the acronym "RBC" for me?