Posts by NeverKnew

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Jehovah's Witnesses Why is it that your critics are 100% honorably

by BlindersOff1 in

most vocal internet critics of watchtower corp are.

bethel elders.

elders.

NeverKnew

Wow, you can get blowjobs, swap wives and sleep with children and remain in this group .... but if you SMOKE and fail to repent (quit) - you're out of the group. Great.

No wonder the upper echelon is screaming from the mountaintops.

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My Husband Said "Victims Of Pedophiles Come Forward Soon, Not Fifteen Or Thirty Years Later!" Right?

by AuntConnie in

my husband had gotten into a fight with a couple of victims of different pedophiles, he said in all his years of elderhood, "men and women who were sexually assualted came forward when they were old enough, they did not wait for decades to report they were abused.

you must have some kind of false memory or you are just trying to bring shame to the congregations.

" what is the truth of this?.

NeverKnew

This was an enlightening article I read that was written by a prisoner who inadvertently befriended Sam Teague. Despite the fact that Sam got a sentencing reprieve, he was no closer to cured.

http://www.capitalpunishmentbook.com/?p=241

Professionals in this field deem pedophila as "incurable." What makes you and your husband professionals?

You have stated your belief of this being the only place you can come to be honest, but you know that some here have been hurt by the very actions your threads address. I'd like to believe your challenges are sincere, but it seems like you're intentionally tossing fuel into a grill of hot coals to see what happens. That in and of itself speaks volumes about you as a person.

Not cool...

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Witness wants to come and vist. What to do?

by MsD in

jw
friends

so i haven't studied with this witness since october.

she had taken over when the other could not study with me.

reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.

NeverKnew

I'm reading the OP. I can identify with the writer...

...I do want to reveal to her many of the things that I have learned, researched on my own.

I might be wrong, but I hear the writer saying - "I'm trying to gain confidence before I make an attempt to open an eyelid," and it appears that the general

I don't know if the poster is a non-JW, but I remember feeling as though I needed practice before talking to my real JW friends of 30 and 15 years respectively. It's a confidence thing. Now? I'm realizing they don't know CRAP!

Also, I kinda felt like... "HEY you guys come to ME with this - I don't come to YOU! I have a right to ask you as many questions as I want... If you have the truth, prove it! Otherwise, maybe you should reconsider knocking on doors until you're sure you have it!"

There's a sense of pride after doing research - especially for non-JWs who are sincerely trying to comprehend all of this. I remember wanting to share and wanting someone to listen. My non-JW friends could care less about JW beliefs so talking to them was pretty much a waste of time. JWs were MUCH more engaging and seem to appreciate my research more. *ahem* :)

I actually wish more non-JWs cared enough and had enough knowledge to challenge the door-knockers. I suspect the JWs would get sick of having to talk about Raymundus Martini and failed prophecies.

Homeowner at door's opening:

Is there a new date! ...aww... okay... come back when you have the NEXT date, okay?

Are you guys still using that Roman Catholic Monk's name? YOU ARE?!? ...uh, what was it again?... wasn't God....

Okay, tell me the truth... which one of you is the pedophile? C'mon... you can tell me...

IMO? If you have nothing to lose but a nagging caller? ... Go ahead MsD! It's been my experience that your JW won't come back afterwards so go on and try out your new knowledge! If she DOES come back? Try to chase her off again! Practice makes perfect! Purely my opinion..

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Witness wants to come and vist. What to do?

by MsD in

jw
friends

so i haven't studied with this witness since october.

she had taken over when the other could not study with me.

reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.

NeverKnew

I have a tough time being rude. But if the former witnesses are saying bail... yikes

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Witness wants to come and vist. What to do?

by MsD in

jw
friends

so i haven't studied with this witness since october.

she had taken over when the other could not study with me.

reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.

NeverKnew

hmm... one last thought. Should you change your mind, I really wouldn't study EVERYthing. I knew quite a bit when a couple of unfortunate souls came across my path.

It is said that you cannot give someone a drink of water with a firehose. I've learned the problem with knowing too much - it's hard not to drown them with what you've learned.

Easiest issue to me? Jehovah's name. Ask her if she could bring her Aid to Bible Understanding Book. When she arrives, tell her you were reading the jw.org website and came across an article that seemed to allude to the use of any name other than "Jehovah" seemed to have something to do with Satan's control (http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010484). Ask her for her thoughts. LET HER EXPRESS THEM THOROUGHLY. When she's finished, ask her what you should do with the information at the bottom of 884 and the top of page 885 of HER Aid book where it explains that the name was created by a Roman Catholic Monk.

I'd then say, "I'm not comfortable with honoring the name a Roman Catholic monk that lived 700 years ago gave the Creator... are you?"

Then, "I'm thinking there could only be one truth - what you told me or what your Aid Book is saying... which do you think it is?"

In 3 of 4 instances, their brains were reeling at this point. In the fourth, the JW tried to make a hybrid out of his words and the Aid Book.

Either decision you make, GOOD LUCK!

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Would I be the punching bag?

by NeverKnew in

poor cognac's challenge has me thinking.. as a non-jw, if i were to marry this jw, would the congregation attribute problems we would encounter to him being married to me?

i don't want to be a punching bag.

couples have challenges.

NeverKnew

Hi Sophie!

I'm not going anywhere near this cult! :)

I'm not clear on this....

when I finally did leave (on my terms) I went RIGHT BACK TO WHAT FELT RIGHT!

When you left the KH or him?... and what did you go back to ... the KH or him? :)

We have been together and lost each other in the past. Neither of us wants to lose again without an attempt to understand "that which we've always known." I've learned from the board and other sites not to present my position right now. I'm okay with that. I'm firmly planted on the inside. In fact studying the history of the evolutionary doctrine of the WT made me to learn more about and appreciate that which I've grown up learning even more. I have to say that given what I'm seeing in the posts with respect to challenging one's own belief (ie challenging what the B'Org says), I'm VERY proud of him. He's got his toe in the water. Every once in a while, he reels back to the safety of that which he's always known, but I think he's trying to work through it.

We'll see!

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